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      Quote Originally Posted by kichu View Post
      I just can't imagine that you would be thinking this if you ever found yourself on the 100th floor of a building in a raging inferno, and your only choice was to jump out of a window.
      He didn't jump out of a window.

      This was horrible. I listened to it three times untill I got it. Now, I wonder what happened. Was that the plane that killed him, or the building collapsing? And what did the operator say after that call?

      Yes, cuddly they shoud show that at an assembly. And who are the muslim kids to say that "America deserved it."? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That guy deserved that? Go watch that video, and then if you still think that, look at what America is doing to shape itself out. And then if you STILL, for only god knows why, THEN you can say that, but expect everyone to hate you. You live in the country. Go back to Iraq or wherever they are from and look at how bad they treat their people, and tell me that America deserved it.

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      America deserved it as a people or as a government, AmazeO?

      It was a tragic event that sparked hysteria throughout the US and fuelled the idea of a 'war on terror'.

      Out of interest, what would you say America is doing to 'shape itself out'?

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      ^^

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      Flattening Iraq so that there can be no further attacks from them.....

      Though i think the large bombings stopped now, that was a few years back, now a days we are building them schools and such, getting the local population to trust you and value your help minimizes the chance that civilians in Iraq will get so angry at their friends/families dieing and join extremist organizations.
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      And Sindred, the first result on the search "what is america doing to get back in shape": http://www.shapeup.org/shape/steps.php

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick View Post
      I don't find anything disturbing about that video really. He died relatively quickly and painlessly.
      I don't really think so. Yeah, he did die, when he was crushed by 10000 tons of twisted steel, but read my post above to try and put yourself in his ordeal. I think one of the scariest things that could happen to me in a skyscraper is a plane crashing into the floors below me. I find it kind of sad that you don't feel bad for him when his last words were screaming OH GOD... OH-(line cuts dead)



      Quote Originally Posted by xXSomeGuyXx View Post
      Now, I wonder what happened. Was that the plane that killed him, or the building collapsing? And what did the operator say after that call?
      The building collapsed and killed him. At the beginning of the video there is a triangle indicating his position. I don't think he was so much crushed as fell with the top part of the building until it started to pancake, and then he died.

      I agree this should be shown at an assembly, or played over a school PA if they do an announcement for a moment of silence. And to the conspiracy theorists, I really, really think you should leave it be. Bush stretched it way too far and tripped over himself into a pile of manure in trying to justify this issue, but seriously, there were no bombs in the building, and there were two planes. Radical idea I know, but there is some video and eyewitness evidence to support it.

      Really, really scary, especially for the people on the plane, hearing the engines whining louder and louder, all the pressure in the cabin being jarred, objects floating in the air, your stomach in your throat, skyscrapers flying past your window, WTC coming up fast, knowing that this is it and your life is over (No comments on reincarnation please) Making the last call to your loved ones...

      I find it ridiculous that there is such a title as "conspiracy theorist" like they were all true, or someone was constantly trying to find a conspiracy.
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      We need conspiracy theorists. People to niggle at what we consider fact. They might be wrong most of the time, but it's important that they're there, and this - undeniably tragic and horrifying as it is - does not change that.

      The whole incident was tragic. But no-one denies that. The severity of 9/11 has been made clear. I do not think assemblies to Americans about how bad 9/11 was would contribute to anything, except further perpetuate the state of fear and suspicion against all things Middle Eastern it caused in the first place.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      We need conspiracy theorists. People to niggle at what we consider fact. They might be wrong most of the time, but it's important that they're there, and this - undeniably tragic and horrifying as it is - does not change that.

      The whole incident was tragic. But no-one denies that. The severity of 9/11 has been made clear. I do not think assemblies to Americans about how bad 9/11 was would contribute to anything, except further perpetuate the state of fear and suspicion against all things Middle Eastern it caused in the first place.
      I agree, but when I see comments on YouTube that say

      "Look at the sides of the building you can see the bombs exploding as it falls srusly"

      How

      Would

      They

      Know

      What

      Would

      Happen

      It's not like they're experts on the subject of building collapse, really. I bet any person studing the effect of that could tell you why it looked the way it did, instead of blaming Bush just because. No wonder he's insane, everyone has had him under a microscope slide since 9/11. Instead of underresponding, he overreacted, that's all.

      And really, some people go so far as to blame the architecture of the building as structurally unsound

      WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING? YOU THINK IT'S SAFETY TESTED FOR JET LINERS SMASHING INTO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING?

      and then say that Bush did it on purpose. You know what, the government is behind everything. Meteorites, 9/11, Freemasonry, religion, Microsoft, Nazism, aliens, global warming, pollution, stock markets, mass media, the internet, the microchip, aurora borealis and solar flares. Now, there is such a thing rational debate, but with just a tiny bit of research a lot of conspiracies could be disproved.
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      Everyone shits themselves over 9/11. It was a terrorist attack, people died, we understand. No one deserved to die.

      But seriously, 9/11 is a small spec in the world's problems. People are always like "oh, what a poor innocent man, he died, he had small children".. There's worse shit out there. What's that one group of people, the ones who are in Africa, and take people prisoner and torture them for hours, untill they're begging for death?

      Those people lived in poverty their whole lives, just to be tortured and then shot to death. This guy coughed threw smoke for about 5 minutes, then fell to this death, most likely dying on impact, with only a few moments of pain. At least the terrorists didn't waltz in there and torture every single person to death.

      Not to say that 9/11 wasn't a big deal, just.. there's more brutal and disgusting things happening outside of our country. Sometimes it seems as though half of our population doesn't even know that there's a whole world out there, not just our country.
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      Quote Originally Posted by AmazeO
      Sometimes it seems as though half of our population doesn't even know that there's a whole world out there, not just our country.


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      Quote Originally Posted by AmazeO XD View Post
      Everyone shits themselves over 9/11. It was a terrorist attack, people died, we understand. No one deserved to die.

      But seriously, 9/11 is a small spec in the world's problems. People are always like "oh, what a poor innocent man, he died, he had small children".. There's worse shit out there. What's that one group of people, the ones who are in Africa, and take people prisoner and torture them for hours, untill they're begging for death?

      Those people lived in poverty their whole lives, just to be tortured and then shot to death. This guy coughed threw smoke for about 5 minutes, then fell to this death, most likely dying on impact, with only a few moments of pain. At least the terrorists didn't waltz in there and torture every single person to death.

      Not to say that 9/11 wasn't a big deal, just.. there's more brutal and disgusting things happening outside of our country. Sometimes it seems as though half of our population doesn't even know that there's a whole world out there, not just our country.
      Sooo.....what exactly are you trying to say?

      That, because the world is full of horrible things, discussing 9/11 for the atrocity it was is....what...stupid?

      That isn't to say that what you stated in your post wasn't correct...but what was the point?
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      Wow, once i saw it was near the end and the words "Oh God Oh" i knew it was going to be bad, my heart raced really fast the second i heard him yell....don't wanna imagine what it must go in the mind of someone knowing they will die. But still, there are worse things happening the other side of the world. Can be sad but not too sad.

      You know...this is sad and he is dead 7 years ago, but at the end of the day we forget this like it never happened and continue on with our lives.
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      At least the terrorists didn't waltz in there and torture every single person to death

      Got to love those optimistic people. But too much optimism can seem, just wrong. That is a bizaree statement. Like atleast the towers didn't fall down after 10 planes hit it. yeah, go the optimism.....


      We need conspiracy theorists.
      I don't really care about people being a conspiracy theorists or seen as a dellusional person, I just look at the information and judge the information firsthand and leave people out of it. I don't bother calling anyone anything insulting like that. I think that would be insulting to be called that even if they were wrong atleast they are trying.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix View Post
      Got to love those optimistic people. But too much optimism can seem, just wrong. That is a bizaree statement. Like atleast the towers didn't fall down after 10 planes hit it. yeah, go the optimism.....
      You make a good point but for some parts I agree with amazedxd. People does keep mentioning this event.
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