Thread: Disclosure Project

sorry if there already was a thread like this, I searched but I didn't find one?

has anyone seen the disclosure project? I'm still very new to it having only heard of it three days ago. IF its real, then I think, yes, its about damn time. If its some internet hoax then I still think, it should really happen. At least I hope its real for our sake. Please let me know what you have heard about it.

http://www.disclosureproject.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Disclosure_Project

the short synopsis : the disclosure project is about UFOs! In this case, it is a group of military and government personal in the US saying "hey we experienced UFO phenomenon/and/or we have actual physical proof of what went down"

the disclosure project claims that the 'secret government' has had contact with aliens/ has alien bodies from crashes/ has taken apart extraterrestrial UFOs to understand them / these projects worked and the american government *and probably others* HAVE been able to duplicate alien technology/ and that duplicating this technology has led to the discovery of a new energy source that is pollution free, virtually lasting forever, and will crush and destroy the oil based economy FOREVER

the disclosure project is not so much about aliens, as it is about unveiling the secret government and human rights. from what I've read, its like this secret government has become disconnected from the actual government - disconnected from our means of democracy and is being controlled by a power elite that is more powerful than our government. that this power elite, is powerful enough to keep even our president in the dark - to keep congress in the dark - and thus - keeping America in the dark.

the reason its a problem is because they have technology that can solve the energy crisis, and they are not sharing it. they are basically asking americans to write to their representative to give these military and government people immunity, so that they can present the truth and all the scientific evidence in the world *for the scientific community* to congress. this way congress can say "bloody hell, our nation and the world needs this technology now!"

while that doesn't necessarily mean we will get to hear everything, we do have ties with congress, we do get to vote, we do have a say. and these aspects of the government holding these secrets can once again be apart of democracy and not some super powerful secret elite group. and through our DEMOCRATIC government, we will eventually know without a doubt - if aliens have visited earth. And aliens will be something written in our history books.

there is a youtube video of the first meeting. it is roughly TWO HOURS LONG and while some of it is exciting, a lot of the people speaking are drab and boring. since well you know, their military people, they don't have much life in them when they talk and im sure they'll put a lot of you guys to sleep

so: I'll quickly cover some of the highlight points of the long two hour meeting

1. ALIENS HAVE LANDED ON EARTH, more than one species
2. At least fifty years ago, we began to study their technology and have successfully duplicated some of their vessels - many UFOs seen today are not alien, but built by earthlings. *WE HAVE ANTI-GRAVITY TECHNOLOGY*
3. There is a base on the dark side of the moon, this was discovered many years ago. This base is alien. Alien spaceships have been seen around this moon base by our astronauts
4. the astronauts were told to keep quiet - and fear tactics have been used in NASA to keep other employees quiet
5. there are many photographic images of earth being taken by satellites, and sometimes, an image of a UFO on ground is captured. these images are cleaned before the public views them. though there are so many images being captured there is a chance some have slipped *if anyone is willing to search*
6. the aliens are peaceful - as believed by the disclosure project - because if they wanted to attack us - they could have done so long ago. many are neutral and just seem to be watching and observing mankind
7. the aliens are concerned about our weapons - and military personal testify that these aliens have been able to disarm missiles and nuclear warheads, rendering them temporarily useless

8. the disclosure project fears, that the government will use fear tactics to justify having space based weapons *which mainly target EARTH*. just as fear was used to justify going into the middle east, telling us lies about weapons of mass destruction that were never found - so to will the American government in the near future us fear of hostile alien activity to justify having these weapons. which again, are better at targeting earth and mankind than 'aliens'. because of this, they feel its time to come out open and clean, start talking about aliens again and begin to let the public know the truth - before these fear tactics can take place.

because really, what can any our weapons do if aliens can disarm them? who then can we target, ourselves? what good will that do?

9. they have had the technology to replace fossil fuel for many many years now, if not at least since the 80s. the power elite will do anything to make sure this new energy source never takes foot.


about the moon
the rumor is, part of the reason why so many missions to the moon didn't happen, was because there were already little green men up there. and the rumor is, this is why our base is orbiting and not on the moon.

the energy source
this new energy source is pollution free, and will change the world completely and forever. not just from an ecological stand point, but from a cultural and economic stand point as well. energy will be so efficient, so 'cheap' relatively speaking in the long run, there will be no excuse to not end world hunger. the power elite 'might' fall apart, if this technology is disclosed publicly before they can profit off of it. and we want them to fall, because they obviously don't give a shit about mankind suffering.

the evidence
the scientific community from what I've understand are shaking their heads, telling the disclosure project - the human eye can't be used as evidence in the science world. just because a military man saw a ufo - does not make a ufo real. very true.

however, the disclosure project claims they have people in their group who have worked on these top secret projects - involving ufos and or aliens directly, and they have physical evidence. they have what the scientific community has been looking for to make this a factual truth.

theres no point however looking online for this evidence. you won't find much. the whole deal is, they can't disclose all of the evidence safely without immunity. the disclosure project has claimed that at least one of their members working on the free energy source has been murdered, and other threats have been made to those who want to let the public know - the energy crisis is history.

again, the disclosure project has said once or twice, that this is more about a human rights issue, than it is about aliens. and the aliens don't seem keen on handing us any technology, if we remain a violent and ignorant people.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

theres the youtube video - two hours - you'll need a lot of caffeine.

if this isn't some internet hoax, if this is real, then I would write to my rep. on their behalf were not scared people anymore, I think the world is ready to hear the truth, and bloody hell, give us our new energy source - gas is eating my pocket!!!

That was hilarious! Great pic!

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did I miss something here?

Originally Posted by juroara

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did I miss something here?

On so, so many levels

Kortikke's pic just about sums it up.

Originally Posted by wasup

Kortikke

what

im glad you guys are laughing it up, but I was looking for a mature discussion. grow up and makes jokes else where

this thread was not about 9-11, its about the disclosure project. do some research before discussing here

Originally Posted by Korittke

KILL ALL JEWS

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

KILL ALL JEWS

QFT

Originally Posted by tkdyo

QFT

and what does that mean

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

and what does that mean

means quoted for truth.

while we're at it, why not kill all monotheistic religions~~~

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

KILL ALL JEWS

Lol. At least jews are smarter and more agreeable than christians.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Lol. At least jews are smarter and more agreeable than christians.

AND ALL CHRISTIANS

Back on topic now. Here's a good video.


http://www.reuters.com/news/video?vi...nnel=1&sp=true

Just because one random guy believes it, doesn't mean it is true. We need source, evidence, and proof - not opinions.

Btw, that sig of tours is ridiculous. ;P

I sorta believe this! And why you ask? Because i really can't imagine military officials who served to protect millions of lives would lie about aliens and UFO's, why would they?

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Just because one random guy believes it, doesn't mean it is true. We need source, evidence, and proof - not opinions.

Btw, that sig of tours is ridiculous. ;P

thats what the disclosure project is all about

they are saying

1. we have sources

2. we have evidence

3. we have proof

but this is top secret military stuff that can not be disclosed without someone losing their head. the disclosure project is arguing that it needs to be disclosed because

1. it will be beneficial to our energy crisis. and beneficial to the average man as energy will be cost efficient

2. these top secret projects are no longer under the control of the president, OR congress - thus, no longer under american control. as both congress and the president *since he's only around for a few years* have both been denied access. the disclosure project is afraid this creates a secret government - an unchecked government with powerful technology

so its more about an unchecked secret government, human rights, than it is about aliens. the disclosure project has to do things legitimately. because some of its members are under oath, they can't talk unless they want to lose their lives. so they are asking us to write to our congressmen and making our congressmen aware that any secret government that is no longer under presidential or congress - is really against everything this nation stands for

in short

we may never even know the truth, the military has secrets for a reason. but the idea is, at least someone who we vote into office will

I'm sorry but the fact that we're not dead yet does not mean to me to mean they're peaceful. The United States has not invaded Jamaica yet, so it's peaceful? Earth is seriously like the Haiti of the galaxy. Why kill us when they're probably using millions of us in sweat shops and we don't even realize it. Seriously, I bet the next probe that goes to venus is going find like 13.5 million human captives making tentacle warmers and grinding coffee beans.

Kromoh, it seems to me that you're just here to call people who don't rely on mundane, stale, scientific fact to tell them what to think, pathetic and stupid. Your posts show a clear lack of respect for other people and a lack of independant thought. You're not better or smarter than people who are open to ideas of ETs, and UFOlogy is not a religion, nor is it merely blind faith.

Before you enter a thread and start attempting to stamp your authority on a subject read a few books. If you did so you would realise the amount of inconclusive information there is out there on this subject. The world is not as simple as evidence or not evidence. Sure, there's no concrete evidence of UFOs, but there's cause enough for a project such as The Disclosure Project to form and start probing this inconclusive area.

The whole notion of seriously investigating aliens and UFOs really deserves a hell of a lot more creedence than it is given. There are people out there who are genuinely terrified by experience they have had, and regardless of whether they are literal experiences or hallucinations, they need to be investigated. I've read about plenty of cases where people have had petrifying experienced in their childhood or later, and as a result barely go a night without having nightmares. They can have days of nothing but sheer terror because of these vivid memories they have, real or not.

Until people like those behind the Disclosure Project actually attempt to find answers instead of sitting back as they would if you had your way, waiting for these sightings to simply explain themselves or 'abduction' cases to simply dry up, we won't get anywhere. People won't gain the understand they need in order to help them cope with/prevent their lives of fear, and the inexplicable cases of UFO phenomenon will not be resolved. It's not about presenting proof here and now to convert the population, it's about attempting to find answers.

If you're so confident that TDS is a load of crap you should have no problem with it continuing and self-destructing. Unless, of course, you really are here just to rub people's faces in fact that there's no evidence so it can't be true (which is flawed logic), and i find it hard to believe you're here for any other reason given the immature nature of your posts.

Originally Posted by Ardent Lost

If you're so confident that TDS is a load of crap you should have no problem with it continuing and self-destructing. Unless, of course, you really are here just to rub people's faces in fact that there's no evidence so it can't be true (which is flawed logic), and i find it hard to believe you're here for any other reason given the immature nature of your posts.

Null Hypothesis, look it up.

"If something cannot show a desired effect or a lack of evidence is present for whatever claim, it is assumed to be false until evidence is produced to substantiate the claim".

Kromoh is simply being sceptical and employing the Null Hypothesis, which is quite the rational thing to do.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

haha so excitedly retarded. The disclosure project is proof that it's not just the internet and people like you act cowardly towards evidence.

If you really look at it, "ufology" is remarkably similar to cryptozoology, in that it relies entirely on anecdotal and crappy film as so-called evidence. If you were a real scientist, or even studied real science, you would see that film and anecdotes are never treated as reliable scientific evidence, ever. It doesn't matter whether you're talking about Bigfoot, aliens, or quarks. The only way to prove something's existence is controlled, repeatable experimentation. Anything less isn't science.

If you really look at it, "ufology" is remarkably similar to cryptozoology, in that it relies entirely on anecdotal and crappy film as so-called evidence.

What does it rely on again? What does it not rely on? It's got every aspect of evidence existent covered. Can't say it's not science just because you don't want it to be science. You can call anything anecdotal and crappy. I think that describes your idea of science for example.

If you were a real scientist, or even studied real science, you would see that film and anecdotes are never treated as reliable scientific evidence, ever.

If you were more sane you would understand film is not always just anecdotes, nor is the evidence limited to that. That the word reliable is relative to your understanding of science. You would also understand that this subject is basically not debatable anymore as to it's authenticity as something provable. It is definitely real and known to be real. Doubt is imaginary sometimes and is due to a long held dogma about preconceived illogical misconceptions from a lack of information and willingness to understand the subject.

It doesn't matter whether you're talking about Bigfoot, aliens, or quarks.

You forgot to mention it also doesn't matter whether you're talking about pineapple pizzas. Arnold Schwarzenegger chasing an ice ream truck with a funny wig, or electrons.

The only way to prove something's existence is controlled, repeatable experimentation. Anything less isn't science.

This isn't anything less, it's more.

85% of UFO sightings can be explained, the other 15% cannot be explained.
Sightings come from air officials, pilots reporting sightings yet nothing showing on radar, military jets have been sent to intercept them, bigfoot on the other hand has not been sighted by military officials...
See what i mean...