Thread: Einstein and some of his philosophical views.

ChaybaChayba exactly, besides, I just quoted Einstein and look who freaked out because it had the word god in it and refused to believe that it was proper quotes from Einstein. And then they say they are not religious but that is exactly the most religious extreme thing anyone has done on this forum.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

ChaybaChayba exactly, besides, I just quoted Einstein and look who freaked out because it had the word god in it and refused to believe that it was proper quotes from Einstein. And then they say they are not religious but that is exactly the most religious extreme thing anyone has done on this forum.

You mean to say to ask that qoutes be placed in their proper context so that someone can't take it out of context is to be religiously extreme?


Your the one who jumped to the conclusion that I was saying they were false qoutes, and that I was calling you a male...

Originally Posted by Sandform

Lol go ahead and not read the actual quotes there aren't taken out of context...

Has it ever occurred to you that since Einstein spoke German that not only could some of the translations be wrong...but that snippets of a long long run of statements can be used as propaganda?

Cite where the qoutes come from, and from the entire document or lecture, or interviews came from or don't qoute them at all. At least not in this thread.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Oh ok, It's not Einstein who said it. Who is it then Pinocchio? They are Einstein quotes so just deal with it. If it wasn't Einstein I would not quote it. It's not my fault if you don't like the quotes.

I qoute being "wrong" is not the same as being "false."

haha. It's not my fault you think the word god is not in context though. It's very simple quotes from Einstein were posted and you didn't believe it. Now build a bridge and get over it. No-one cares it's a waste of time trying to argue.

Originally Posted by Sandform

Lol go ahead and not read the actual quotes there aren't taken out of context...

Has it ever occurred to you that since Einstein spoke German that not only could some of the translations be wrong...but that snippets of a long long run of statements can be used as propaganda?

Cite where the qoutes come from, and from the entire document or lecture, or interviews came from or don't qoute them at all. At least not in this thread.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

haha. It's not my fault you think the word god is not in context though. It's very simple quotes from Einstein were posted and you didn't believe it. Now build a bridge and get over it. No-one cares it's a waste of time trying to argue.

Freaking A Minerva. I'm not saying it IS taken out of context. There is no context IN the fucking qoutes. SOMEONE can take a qoute out of context if you don't provide it.

Normally when someone says "I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details" people are going to assume a context refering to a conscious creating God. I don't because I know what Einstein actually has said before, but that doesn't mean that I want you spouting it so that other people can misinterpret it.

haha you guys are funny.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

haha you guys are funny.

Really... I suppose it is funny when you (Minerva) provide qoutes to be taken out of context.

You know, and then you (Minerva) lie about what people say...

and then you (Minerva) continue on with that lie even after people tell you what they are actually saying...

Yeah it is real funny when we get upset with your constant lies about what we are saying.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

haha. It's not my fault you think the word god is not in context though. It's very simple quotes from Einstein were posted and you didn't believe it. Now build a bridge and get over it. No-one cares it's a waste of time trying to argue.

I would like to add that is a lie. YOU thought I didn't believe it. I said it needed to be put in context.

Context being that A lots of the things he said are translated from German, and B that during a series of long statements, snippets can be used out of context as propaganda.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

haha. It's not my fault you think the word god is not in context though.

Oh ok, I think I undestand the source of the misunderstanding now.

I honestly believe that Minervas doesn't understand what the phrase "in context" means. To prevent further wading through unneeded confusion, let's clear up the meaning so we can all be talking about the same thing.

To supply the context of a quote means to explain where and when it comes from, not just who said it. So that everyone understand the intent of the original quotation, it is also important to include the original text before and after the quote if it has any relevance at all.

In-context example:
"Kid's put a lot of faith into their parents. Until I turned 10, I often wondered if my father was the smartest person on Earth. Now I can see how stupid he really was."

Out-of-context example:
"... my father was the smartest person on Earth."

That's how the intent of a quote can be distorted. Supply just the second version, and the meaning takes a 180 degree turn.

Does anyone reading this right now feel like they are at a mad tea party of some kind? All I did was quote Einstein which was the point of the thread. It's not a lie sand form sorry if I upset you I didn't mean to do that I just thought all the confusion is funny.

skysaw all my quotes were complete not half a quote of a sentence.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Does anyone reading this right now feel like they are at a mad tea party of some kind? All I did was quote Einstein which was the point of the thread. It's not a lie sand form sorry if I upset you I didn't mean to do that I just thought all the confusion is funny.

I'm not saying your lying about what Einstein said, see how you are taking things out of context.

I said you lied about what I said. Which you are (again) doing now.

As for the "point" of the thread.

The point of the thread is to FULLY quote Einstein so that he doesn't get misinterpreted. That includes all relevant information said before and after the qoute.

I'm not lieing sandform, and I did fully quote Einstein.

Originally Posted by skysaw

It's not whether or not Einstein said them (and I believe he did), but that we have no larger context within which to understand what he was getting at.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

ChaybaChayba exactly, besides, I just quoted Einstein and look who freaked out because it had the word god in it and refused to believe that it was proper quotes from Einstein.

Way to keep your streak going.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

ChaybaChayba exactly, besides, I just quoted Einstein and look who freaked out because it had the word god in it and refused to believe that it was proper quotes from Einstein. And then they say they are not religious but that is exactly the most religious extreme thing anyone has done on this forum.

Yeah same here. I quoted Einstein on God and Sandform decided to make this thread to get rid of all the confusion... the only one who is confused is Sandform tbh. Thinking God is a fairy

It's not our fault you hate the context. A quote is just a quote. The context is up to your own intelligence to interpret the meaning of it.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Yeah same here. I quoted Einstein on God and Sandform decided to make this thread to get rid of all the confusion... the only one who is confused is Sandform tbh. Thinking God is a fairy

I don't think God exists actually...

I tend to not label things such as existence with the word God...see I call existence existence, and not something that can be confused by the use of supernatural deities.

You call existence God becuase you need a sense of support, and the word itself is revered as a spiritual feeling. Because of this you get a fake fix from calling the universe God.

Sure, but if you stick with the word God, the whole world will understand and know what you talk about, since the whole world is familiar with the concept of God. Thats why Einstein also used God. It's a way of communication. Also understanding God is the key to understand the Bible or any religious scripture, or to understand anyone talking about God. Like Einstein for example.

Originally Posted by Einstein

God doesn't play with dice.

So each time, from now on, if we want to quote Einstein, we will have to quote everything he ever said so it wouldn't be taken out of context? Doesn't that defy the whole point of quoting?

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

So each time, from now on, if we want to quote Einstein, we will have to quote everything he ever said so it wouldn't be taken out of context? Doesn't that defy the whole point of quoting?

Um...No?

Its not "everything he ever said." It is everything relevant to what he meant when he said it.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

They are scared of the word god or something.....

Of course, that makes sense.

It isn't about the word God. It is about the meaning of ANY qoute. A qoute should not ever be qouted in such a way so that its meaning isn't directly understood.