Thread: Voting McCain?

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

First off Obama is winning the election, and has more voters than McCain.

I don't think everybody is being honest in the current Reuters poll. A lot of people out there get something out of commitment to liberal ideals and viewing themselves as liberals but will not vote for Obama (like I said earlier) when it comes down to it. Just watch.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

Second, McCains economic, and foreign policy SUCK. McCain is an imitation of Bush, and is a neo-con. He is old, and why is it better to be in a prison camp for 5 years? What about the people who didn't get their asses in a prison?

I didn't say anything about the prison camp. However, I will now say that he stayed an extra five years willingly because he did not want to leave his friends behind and not be able to help them get through the terrible period. That shows a great deal of conscience and character, which both Clinton and Obama seriously lack.

I also said I think the Republicans have more up their sleeves on Obama.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

Remember: Recap in November.

Don't forget.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I would just like to state that Reverend Wright is not "anti-America." He is "anti-current-American-Administration-who-are-controlling-her(America's)-policies."

He addressed a lot more than recent policies. He dug up the Japan bombings and other things that are from far back and then used those as the reasons for 9/11, saying, "America's chickens are coming home to roost," a quote of Malcolm X's point that Kennedy got shot for the same reason. It is a point that suggests not the logical and direct consequences of policy, but of some superstitious weirdness that is a lot like Kharma. He did not condemn the 9/11 terrorists. He said they did what they did because of some crazy thing the U.S. government did to the spiritual superstition realm or something. He was basically saying the U.S. is an evil country and got what it asked for by doing very unrelated things.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

IHe used the phrase "God Damn America" because it was a catchy contrast to "God Bless America," illustrating the point that killing innocent people (as the American Administration is doing, in this war) is an damnable offense, under religious doctrine.

Like I said, he brought up things that the U.S. government did long ago, from long before you and I were even born. "God damn America" is catchy because it is in contrast to "God bless America", but it does mean that America is evil and deserves bad things and can go screw itself.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Sure he's extremist, in his opinions, but part of Obama's "problem" with him is that people are viewing him as something he's not proven to be.

I want a president who would never dream of going to a church that preaches such hateful and crazy stuff against the country. If Obama were a rock star or something, I might not think much of it, but he is running for president of the United States, of all things. I want somebody who condemns hatred for the country and who wants to do good things for the country, not somebody who gives even the slightest bit of credence to the idea that we are an evil nation that deserves bad things. It is out of the question. I am far from alone on that.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

He addressed a lot more than recent policies. He dug up the Japan bombings and other things that are from far back and then used those as the reasons for 9/11, saying, "America's chickens are coming home to roost," a quote of Malcolm X's point that Kennedy got shot for the same reason. It is a point that suggests not the logical and direct consequences of policy, but of some superstitious weirdness that is a lot like Kharma. He did not condemn the 9/11 terrorists. He said they did what they did because of some crazy thing the U.S. government did to the spiritual superstition realm or something. He was basically saying the U.S. is an evil country and got what it asked for by doing very unrelated things.

i think the point he was trying to make was that americas been fucking with alot of people and what goes around comes around or kharma as you put it.