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      Question Blame Israel?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

      This Rabbi in the video, and his followers are claiming that the Israeli leadership is really not jewish, but rather zionist, which is evil imho.

      They want to abolish the jewish state, and these are jewish people saying this...I don't agree that the jews don't deserve a country, they do deserve a country, BUT it should have NOT BEEN STOLEN from Palestine.

      They should relinquish the stolen land, and find free land somewhere, away from all the wacko's in the middle east.

      I know this may be controversial but I will make this UTTERLY CLEAR.

      I am not, have never been an anti-semite, so please don't take this thread as an insult to Judaism..

      I respect Judaism, but Zionism is just WRONG. There are those who claim the Zionist's are responsible for many of the USA's policies such as the war on terror and iraq..and the future war on Iran the israeli government is dragging us into.

      Anyways, what's your thoughts on this Rabbi? I think he's a man of courage to speak out against the wrong doing the Israeli Government commits daily.
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      Religion should never be a criterion for deciding who gets to live on a piece of land.

      Democracy of equality is the only way. Everything else is bullshit.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Not very democratic of a nation to steal land from another.
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      More like...blame the US, who is supporting Israel, giving them money and weapons, turning a blind eye to what the Israelis are doing, giving jews money to move to Israel and occupied territory, etc. And no matter who is controlling our country, the Palestinians are fucked.

      Republicans: Christian Zionists who want all the Jews to return to Israel for the second coming of Christ lmao. (this is serious btw)

      Democrats: get lots of money and support from rich influential Jews

      So the Palestinians are fucked either way, no matter who is running our country. And we run Israel. Israel can bully the Palestinians because they have the greatest super power in the world supporting them.

      *spits*

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      Imagine what Palestine would do if they had Israel's nuclear power. But does Israel do it? No.

      We protect democracy against irrational thuggery.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post

      We protect democracy against irrational thuggery.
      Irrational? No this is a cycle thats been going on since 1948 when an Eastern European jewish immigrant state was imposed on Arab muslims and Christians in Palestine.

      Unfortunately for the West and "israel" they thought the Arabs would just take that imperialist shit but they were wrong and now they are getting their just deserts...People dont forgive and forget too easily.

      The Palestine/israel conflict is the residue of colonialist indifference and if only for the sake of peace needs to be dismantled and either become a state for all of its citizens (right now its a state for jews but for all the Arabs, Druze and Palestinians under Apartheid like occupation int he West Bank) or it needs to be dismantled by force but the Status Quo's got to change.

      A country founded on Ethnic Cleansing can never have peace.
      Last edited by dragonoverlord; 05-28-2008 at 10:20 AM.
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