Thread: Discuss your thoughts without arguing.

Originally Posted by Volcon

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7011220816

That's about creating a mock hurricane about the size of a house. I thought you were talking about creating a hurricane hurricane.

Nono, recreate as in simulate, not make a full blown one, that would cause the doomsday nuts to have a damn coronary.

WTF Minerva! Where did your post go lol.

Demensions are just a concept. Length, width, and height make up space. Space itself is also a concept, something derived from the way we percieve reality. So demensions by themselves don't exist, but they are concepts to explain another concept known as space. I'm not even entirely convinced space itself exists the way we believe it to.

Originally Posted by Sandform

WTF Minerva! Where did your post go lol.

Demensions are just a concept. Length, width, and height make up space. Space itself is also a concept, something derived from the way we percieve reality. So demensions by themselves don't exist, but they are concepts to explain another concept known as space. I'm not even entirely convinced space itself exists the way we believe it to.

Well physics is based on 'just a concept' then. You can say anything is a 'concept' why do you choose to say it now at this critical point where we must get clear for the foundation of physics. Your not entirely convinced of your education to suggest then that space is different to how we believe. I think what I was taught in school was also wrong but I think there is more to this science than just a concept. Our technology has effects in the world and these concepts are what we rely on to function in the world and will determine our success.

Originally Posted by volcon

i made the mistake of allowing myself to come here while under said influence of energy drinks, my above posts werent really... well thought out, and i apologize.

Thanks that's a very desirable result from you.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Well physics is based on 'just a concept' then. You can say anything is a 'concept' why do you choose to say it now at this critical point where we must get clear for the foundation of physics. Your not entirely convinced of your education to suggest then that space is different to how we believe. I think what I was taught in school was also wrong but I think there is more to this science than just a concept. Our technology has effects in the world and these concepts are what we rely on to function in the world and will determine our success.

Concepts can work without being completely correct. What we do is explain things in a way that works for us. Just because it works doesn't mean it is exact. From what we see, we explain things. However, we've developed the ability to see, sight isn't an inherent property of the universe. All we know is that our concepts work. An idea can work based on the wrong foundations if the wrong foundations are based on a true foundation that isn't known...In this way there is no reason to abandon our concepts just because a piece of the concept doesn't make sense to some.

For example women have morning sickness during pregnancy because they feel sick and food repulses them. Certain foods cause deformations and miscarriages. It stands to reason that morning sickness lowers the chance for that. Women are doing it based on the idea that some food tastes bad it makes me sick. All the body knows is that the food makes her sick during pregnancy. It knows nothing of the damage the food can cause. However, the foundation of the visible purpose for the morning sickness to persist is because it decreases miscarriage. An underlying foundation was true for an overlying foundation that was derived from it, which was also true, like dimensions, but not true in the same way.

I guess what I'm saying is that dimensions by themselves don't technically exist, but what they represent is technically correct.