Thread: McCain aide: "another terrorist attack would be advantage"

I don't think you get it UM, if we attack Iran, it's pretty much the start of the third world war, I don't think most people understand that, but if we do attack them, be ready for a shitstorm.

C'mon, people, you know what McCain's dude was saying. Only Obama and everyone he knows can be castigated for making honest but politically vulnerable assessments of the historical moment.

Originally Posted by guerilla

I don't think you get it UM, if we attack Iran, it's pretty much the start of the third world war, I don't think most people understand that, but if we do attack them, be ready for a shitstorm.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

That is why I don't think war with them is necessary at this time.

We already have that kind of storm going on right now. We are at war with Islamofascism. We don't want to go to war with the Iranian government any more than we already are (We are fighting their terrorists in Iraq already.), but we will to stop them from having nukes. Iran with nukes is a far worse scenario than an increase in the storm we have going on right now. Iran with nukes is assured nuclear attack on the United States. Think about that.

Originally Posted by The Fishy

I'm sorry Guerilla, but this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard, EVER.

I'm not even capable of giving a discernable reply and refering to your "Un-fucking-believable abuse of human rights isn't that good, but hey, it's not happening in our country" statement in the same post, so I'll leave it.

But seriously - first of all, the US in the most advance nation in the world. It has problems and is in a short-term economic crisis, yes. But it is not "crumbling".

How can you dismiss trying to combat a religiously extremist, human rights abusing, insanely anti-American government as "prancing around the world like some global police force" when said government is not only a main supplier of oil that can now twist arms in a way never before seen, who is sending imams to spread religious extremism to the world as well as being one of the leaders in the world of religous extremism, and is training and harbouring terrorists that not only destroy our efforts in the region but are fully equipped to attack us with weapons supplied by this very government that is coincidentally threatening to become nuclear, a move that would make this already powerful America hating oil-rich country one of the most powerful countries in the world, JUST BECAUSE they'll only become nuclear in a few years.

Wow, it is soo reassuring to realise how silly I've been to worry seeing as there are still a few years left until terrorists get nuclear weapons. What a relief, let me tell you.

I should mention that you made a lot of great and well put points in that post.

I don't think you get it UM, if we attack Iran, it's pretty much the start of the third world war

Yeah, that's what he wants.

Thank you very much, UM.

Now, I was going to add this before, but I had no time.

This is pointless. No matter what facts are given to you, you will dismiss even the most uncontroverted fact as propoganda fed to brainwashed Republicans (which, incidentally, does not apply to me, my not being Republican) with a few meaningless sentences that make no points whatsoever that nonetheless you obviously feel are pilosophical and deep even though they are actually quite stupid.

Now, you haven't done this yet. But there is a whole archive (called Dreamviews) out there documenting this exact reaction coming from you, which leads me to think it might happen once more here. Obviously I realise it might not happen that way, which would be quite a pleasant change.

Now, coming sharply back to the point. Two things:

1) If you are so inclined to dismiss the very real reasons I gave towards Iran being a serious threat as lies or fear-mongering, you can. But bear in mind I am not asking you to trust the American government.

I am asking you to believe Iran's own government websites that proudly uphold their religious extremism, their grasp of Shari'ah law and the art of stoning people to death, their intent to wipe Israel (which, whatever you think of it, is a very real ally to the U.S.) off the map, their commendation and support of (and by some sources, the alliance they have) Hizbollah, Syria, Hamas, etc, and their intent to blockade oil if attack, among other things.

Or if you can't find their websites, try searching for information on their schoolbooks. I bet that'd be fun.

Now, on to my second point. They will not admit everything. Of course not. But there is evidence, supported/ even found by many governments, of everything else we worry about - for instance, their training of terrorists. Again, you don't need to trust the Bush administration in this case.

I know many people who would give a large number of their bodyparts to live in the U.S. If you distrust your government so much, move to Cuba. Or hey, move to Iran, I hear they have really great beaches.

Let me guess - the whole country of Iran doesn't actually exist, it's just a lie spread by Bush!

Thank you very much, UM.

You are UM. It's the paranoia again.

Actually, I have another idea. How about you go on holiday on holiday to S'derot? Then you'll be able to prove it to us all that terroism is totally fake!

Btw, I forgot to mention something in my last post, fixing it now.