Thread: Third parties, who do you like more in the election

Originally Posted by snoop

Universal Health Care is very slow. There was a woman who was raped in Wales 2 years ago. Since then she has not been able to walk, and has not been able to see a specialist. She finally got approved to see a specialist by her normal doctor... 22 weeks from now.

Sounds like she's getting the help she deserves to me!

That is not what I call "protection", but forcing the entire country to live like that is what I call "robbery".

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

That is not what I call "protection", but forcing the entire country to live like that is what I call "robbery".

Universal Healthcare is very slow, which makes it very impractical. There are other ways to set up healthcare so that everyone receives treatment, but don't have to wait 2 years to see a specialist. That is why I don't support Universal Healthcare.

Also, part of my point with that was juroara was acting like, if we had Universal Healthcare, that person that died of cancer would not have died of cancer, but if you look at how slow Universal Healthcare is, you would see that the person that died would have died anyway.

Originally Posted by snoop

Universal Healthcare is very slow, which makes it very impractical.

A tenacious myth with very little supporting evidence save a few anecdotes.

Originally Posted by skysaw

A tenacious myth with very little supporting evidence save a few anecdotes.

That is not so. My dad has a degenerative back disease, and he is a member of a forum for people with problems with their backs and the like. He knows several members from Canada that would like to move to America because it takes them forever to see a specialist.

Can you tell me you honestly know several people with serious diseases that would argue that the opposite were true?

Don't give me shit about supporting evidence unless you give me some. Please provide me with the people mentioned above, or some links to unbiased web sources.

For the sake of continuing the conversation in standard English, please allow me to point out a standard definition:

Anecdotal
-adjective
Based on personal observation, case study reports, or random investigations rather than systematic scientific evaluation: anecdotal evidence.

Originally Posted by snoop

My dad has a degenerative back disease, and he is a member of a forum for people with problems with their backs and the like.

This is anecdotal

He knows several members from Canada that would like to move to America because it takes them forever to see a specialist.

Again, anecdotal

Can you tell me you honestly know several people with serious diseases that would argue that the opposite were true?

A request for anecdotal evidence

It's your claim to prove. Please do it without anecdotal evidence. A scientific study or poll usually does the trick.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MODV9pdViIA&feature=related

Let's Do What The Dutch Do And Forget The Stupid Motherfucking Canadians.