Thread: And it Begins: RFIDs

http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/17/n...citizens-next/

I can't believe we have to pay to get our lives tracked.

If the government handed out RFIDs for free, it would be too obvious, wouldn't it? If people have to pay a nominal fee, then they can say, "It can't be a police state, because we paid for these things".

You people sound way to paranoid. RFIDs are a good thing, they will allow your medical records to be brought up if you aren't conscious. I know my dogs all have them.

You're way to accepting. You fail to see the [negative] potential these things have, especially in the wrong hands.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

You people sound way to paranoid. RFIDs are a good thing, they will allow your medical records to be brought up if you aren't conscious. I know my dogs all have them.

Yeah but you forget, how easy it is to hack and even clone them. Wow, what a scary future.

I think I remeber Discovery channel was going to have a MithBusters episode, show how easy this can be. But it was canned!!!!! by who, you ask?.......I think you already have an idea.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

You people sound way to paranoid. RFIDs are a good thing, they will allow your medical records to be brought up if you aren't conscious. I know my dogs all have them.

If you have a tag on your ID, the government can effectively track you, because every shopping mall, school, mailbox, etc. can easily be outfitted with a scanner. By combining the pings on all the scanners they can track your movements in near real-time. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to come up with creative ways this can be used to enslave a population.

Also, I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." You would be wise to contemplate these words.

They don't have wifi transmitters in them. You can't scan them from any kind of distance, you have to have the scanner directly over it. You guys have to stop reading Orwell and pick up a Scientific American.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

They don't have wifi transmitters in them. You can't scan them from any kind of distance, you have to have the scanner directly over it. You guys have to stop reading Orwell and pick up a Scientific American.

err wrrrrooonnggg (maybe)

Originally Posted by ninja9578

They don't have wifi transmitters in them. You can't scan them from any kind of distance, you have to have the scanner directly over it. You guys have to stop reading Orwell and pick up a Scientific American.

I find this extremely ironic considering SciAm just did an article about how American RFIDs can be read with any scanner from up to 30 feet.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...-could-be-used

Most new credit cards already have RFID in them. I was slightly surprised to find that mine do. Chipped cards usually have a radiowave like symbol on the back, along with trademarks like "blink" or "paypass". You can also see the location of the chip if you look at the reflection of light off the back of the card. There will be a small square "disturbance" in the card's surface on the right hand side of the card's back.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

If you have a tag on your ID, the government can effectively track you, because every shopping mall, school, mailbox, etc. can easily be outfitted with a scanner. By combining the pings on all the scanners they can track your movements in near real-time. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to come up with creative ways this can be used to enslave a population.

Also, I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." You would be wise to contemplate these words.

Have any of you fucktards heard of mobile phones?
Your position is being tracked in real-time, right now, as we speak.

Think a little before you decide you have something new to say.

Originally Posted by adam has a dream

Have any of you fucktards heard of mobile phones?
Your position is being tracked in real-time, right now, as we speak.

Think a little before you decide you have something new to say.

Even if cell phone companies were so inclined as to keep tabs on people, they are not answerable to the government, and hence it cannot be assumed that the government has those records, if they exist. Also, not being tracked by a cell phone is as easy as turning it off, whereas not being tracked by an RFID in your driver's license would require you to not have ID when you move about.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

You people sound way to paranoid. RFIDs are a good thing, they will allow your medical records to be brought up if you aren't conscious. I know my dogs all have them.

I beg to differ, the day I see an RFID in my prescence im going to step on it and light it on fire.

Originally Posted by guerilla

I beg to differ, the day I see an RFID in my prescence im going to step on it and light it on fire.

You go girl!

hehe, after burning and crushing it I'll mail it to the government and write a letter telling them to wear them, we should track their every movement and invade their privacy, and see how they like it, karma


Omg, thats it, I swear thats the solution to government, we spy on them and we track their movements through RFID, then we the people will be in control once again.