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      Quote Originally Posted by Sybot View Post
      But I am looking at the evidence. And yours is crap.
      Right back at ya..

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      You accepted that people will mock you before you even made this post, so you call claims for your own proof as people mocking you. I never stated my stance. I never said I agree, nor disagree, with you.

      I asked you to practice what you preach, and you use the idea that people are mocking you as a shield, a method to dodge reasonable requests.

      I don't mock you for your theory and idea, however controversial it is, I mock you for your ignorance and cowardice in rational discussion.
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      Troll. :\

      What theory in particular to you disagree with?

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      And, it is rather strange that you think you already know what the truth is, considering the fact that you do not have access to Top Secret government information. You simply base reality upon what the media tells you and what Earth's authority figures tell you. You're a tool.
      Unfortunately for you it isn't any better listening to ideas coming from your own ass :/ Yet you demonstrate that fairly well by this very thread.

      Troll. :\

      What theory in particular to you disagree with?
      Actually, I just think he's one of those people who just wants to disagree with something to make it all a bit more interesting
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      Aern't those cat pictures and fail pics something 13 year olds who play world of warcraft invented?

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      Aern't those cat pictures and fail pics something 13 year olds who play world of warcraft invented?
      Well then its pretty good I'm not the one who invented them, huh? How does that has any relevance to this topic?
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      Once you awaken this will make sense, you can discuss this with me, i will see your side and i hope you can try see mine. I said you mock me all you like because i know for a fact people find this funny and get a kick out of calling someone mad. No of course i don't have proof but do you have proof i am wrong? Just because a scientist says doesn't make it real...

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      Once you awaken this will make sense, you can discuss this with me, i will see your side and i hope you can try see mine. I said you mock me all you like because i know for a fact people find this funny and get a kick out of calling someone mad. No of course i don't have proof but do you have proof i am wrong? Just because a scientist says doesn't make it real...
      Of course not ^^ I just thought your original posts, seeing as you called everyone tools/idiots right away was a bit over the top, and overall a bit aggressive, just a bit.

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      How do i know the earth is round? I have never been in space and saw earth, we believe it because the authority says it. Im trying to get accross is the fact that we all immediatly believe what we are told, just because the trustworthy goverment and scientists say.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SomeDreamer View Post
      Of course not ^^ I just thought your original posts, seeing as you called everyone tools/idiots right away was a bit over the top, and overall a bit aggressive, just a bit.
      I went a bit OTT just a bit

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dreamhope11 View Post
      How do i know the earth is round? I have never been in space and saw earth, we believe it because the authority says it. Im trying to get accross is the fact that we all immediatly believe what we are told, just because the trustworthy goverment and scientists say.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sybot View Post


      So, apparently, government, science, history, and the media are all part of a monolithic alien conspiracy dating back thousands of years. And despite the millions, if not hundreds of millions, of people who'd have to be involved in this, the best evidence you can come up with are some drawings by primitive peoples.



      I know you'll call me blind, deluded, a sheep etc. But I am looking at the evidence. And yours is crap.
      No millions are still unaware.

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      Yes I'm sure the government is hugely interested in covering up the shape of the world... the knowledge that it's actually egg shaped would undoubtedly have lead to social turmoil all over the globe. :/

      We've known the Earth's a sphere since at least the ancient Greeks.

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      We all get up, do 9-5 routine, pay tax, we are trapped into paying into the ruling elites system, we are on the urge of spiritual evolution, by feburary the elite will be gone, 2012 isn't about doomsday, it's about entering a new concious awareness.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Yes I'm sure the government is hugely interested in covering up the shape of the world... the knowledge that it's actually egg shaped would undoubtedly have lead to social turmoil all over the globe. :/

      We've known the Earth's a sphere since at least the ancient Greeks.
      Sorry i didn't mean for you to get the wrong idea, i used it as an example. But have you ever seen the earth from space? You listen to authority...Point proved.

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      No. I look at the photos of Earth, of which there are thousands of circular ones and zero square ones. Scepticism is what defines science, not the lack thereof.

      Would you rather we guessed?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Troll. :\

      What theory in particular to you disagree with?

      Once again, who said I disagree?

      Don't interpret this as my note of agreement, I never stated that either.

      In any regard however, I fail to see how asking for one to provide evidence and rational discussion, when that is what they themselves request of others, is trolling. I much rather see support for an controversial claim that has been layed out for discussion and debate rather than deal with a repeated exchange of:

      "Where is your proof?"
      "STOP MAKING FUN OF ME!!!!! "
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      No. I look at the photos of Earth, of which there are thousands of circular ones and zero square ones. Scepticism is what defines science, not the lack thereof.

      Would you rather we guessed?
      Yes but you trust the source without question...

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      Dreamhope's disclosed too much information.
      Gather 'round folks! If I can get your attention for just a second. We're doing a mandatory fractal eye exam that'll only take a couple minutes of your time. Look clearly into the red light please.



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      Once again, who said I disagree?
      Sorry, I was adressing the OP.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dreamhope11 View Post
      First and foremost, this thread is not a hoax or joke. Now, moving on....

      The information on this thread is, in fact, not "crap," "nonsense," or "conspiracy theories." Attempting to hold onto your existing worldview would not be a wise decision. So, either accept the truth now or continue to suffocate in ignorance and mental slavery...
      Anyways..
      Human beings on Earth like to blow off the truth by claiming that it is simply nonsense, calling it, for example, "funny," "hilarious," or "entertaining." In addition, they automatically disregard the truth messenger as being a "standard-issue schizophrenic who is obviously out of touch with reality." People desperately try to paint the truth messenger as being non-lucid, mentally unstable, illogical, and so self-absorbed that they can't see things for what they really are. This is a very convenient way to quickly discard the truth and go on with one's life.

      And, when people come upon new information such as this, they erroneously assume that they have some sort of intellectual high ground over it. They start with the assumption that their belief system is correct, and, for whatever reason, vehemently refuse to acknowledge the possibility that they may have actually been deceived all along by their belief system. And thus, when confronted with counter-evidence, they automatically reject it.

      You do not have access to Top Secret government information or to Top Secret government facilities. Nor are you a member of any of Earth's secret societies. In addition, you were not born 5,000 years ago; you were born only within the last 100 years, so you were not able to see history unfold with your own eyes.

      Yet, despite all of these undeniable facts, you claim that you already know what the truth is. That is, just like how you know for a fact that 1+1=2, you also claim that you know for a fact what the truth is. So, um, how the hell is that possible???

      Well, via compartmentalization, you are able to acknowledge the fact that government secrets exist and that secret societies exist, while simultaneously claiming that you, somehow, already know for a fact what the truth is. Wow, talk about being irrational!

      In reality, you simply base the truth upon what the media tells you and what Earth's authority figures tell you. And, you are foolish enough to equate reading about an event in a history book to actually seeing that event with your own eyes. You don't believe religious texts, yet you still believe government texts such as history books and government belief systems such as science. As a practitioner of selective reasoning, how dare you call yourself a "rationalist"?

      You trust Earth's authority figures because they are powerful and you think they are trustworthy. Obviously, however, these authority figures would never willingly incriminate themselves to you. If they did incriminate themselves to you, then you would no longer consider them to be legitimate authority figures


      You people claim that you need proof in order to believe something. OK, great. That's perfectly understandable. However, in actuality, YOU ARE LYING. What you really mean is that you need proof only when it comes to believing this information. Whereas, you don't need proof in order to believe an authority figure. This is the ultimate case of selective reasoning.

      How do you know that the leaders of this world are not aliens? That's right, you have absolutely no proof at all! Have you ever met them and examined their bodies, etc.? No, you haven't. Oh, but wait, you worship authority, and so you believe whatever they tell you.


      The Reptilians are, in fact, not some arbitrarily conceived overlord, and the many ancient texts that constantly refer to the powerful "serpent race" that controls mankind is neither a coincidence nor baseless mythology. All of you have been programmed to believe that "people were dumb and crazy back in ancient times," and that "ancient mythology was simply based off of those dumb and crazy people's imaginations." No, people were not "dumb and crazy" back in ancient times.

      The Reptilians bounced around from culture to culture as they created Earth's religions. So, there are many religious references to serpent gods. The Asian "dragon," the Biblical "serpent," the Native American "Sheti"/"Snake-Brothers," the Gnostic "Archon," and the Indian "Naga" are all mainly based upon the Reptilians. And, in many cases, the Reptilians even desired to be directly worshipped. However, they did not want to be directly depicted, so people often used symbolism (such as snakes) in order to depict them.

      But, most importantly, a lot of ancient evidence has been intentionally destroyed or tampered with, and for obvious reasons. Once again, you were born only within the last 100 years. So, before you had even arrived on the scene, much of the evidence of humanity's true past had already been deleted
      The year is 2008 AD, but we do not live in modern times yet. Since Earth is still set up in an archaic, knowledge-ignorance format where god-kings (who hold the knowledge) rule over the masses (who bask in ignorance), we are literally (yes, literally) still living in ancient times.


      The so-called "science" that the Reptilians have doled out to humanity so far is grossly incomplete (not to mention inaccurate), and therefore is a form of control:

      "A complete science would place astral planes, parallel dimensions, synchronicities, consciousness, etheric fields, telepathy, vital energies, emotional energies, volition, hyperdimensional existence and timeloops all under the same framework. At present, these appear to be phenomena distinct from science, but that is because science as we know it is incomplete. It is not that these phenomena can be explained in terms of present science as reductionists and debunkers enjoy doing, but rather that present science must expand to accommodate these phenomena in terms of higher physical and metaphysical principles"

      In the scientific community, the concept of government secrets is taboo, and is the "pink elephant in the living room" that scientists and atheists refuse to acknowledge. Scientists and atheists do not want to admit such a simple and obvious fact: If all government secrets were exposed today, then all of the truth about reality would finally be revealed--and thus, society would fall apart, science would fall apart, all religions would fall apart, the mass media would fall apart, and there would be no more need for websites such as this.

      Whereas a religion has faith in the existence of an imaginary god, science has faith in the trustworthiness of the government--something which real truth seekers would never dare have.

      Mind you that the scope of "trusting the government" covers trusting mass media information, trusting what is told in history books, and, basically, trusting anything else that is considered to be "official" (such as the "official" version of history). People never ask for proof or evidence when information comes from an official source. Instead, they simply rely on their faith in the trustworthiness of the source.

      Right now, you are reading the information on this thread in a skeptical manner, erroneously thinking that by doing so, you are being a noble defender of logic, reason, and reality. Well, here is some news for you: Your status quo worldview is not the truth. In actuality, by being a skeptic, all you are really doing is behaving like an obedient sheep for the ruling elite; you are a well-behaved pawn in their game of control. Who do you think created the status quo in the first place? It sure wasn't you. You are merely a follower, a calf that sucks knowledge from the udders of authority.

      And, it is rather strange that you think you already know what the truth is, considering the fact that you do not have access to Top Secret government information. You simply base reality upon what the media tells you and what Earth's authority figures tell you. You're a tool.
      Why do you think Top government secrets are kept secret?.. What if the government found out that a group of aliens bred us? The world would be in chaos.. Governments will lose legitimacy, especially since most of the world are religious zealots..

      How are we sheep? Wtf? Do you have a life with people you love and care about?

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      Okauy dreamhope, let see if you can view my opinion with an open mind

      The fouder of this theory is David Icke, a man who took on a heavy burden of social ridicule in order to reveal the greatest secret in the world to mankind. This secret was that the Oligarchs have been apart of the same family since ancient Babylon and work for a malicious race of beings called the Cthulu.

      If David Icke was not a charleton before, he is now. He's published over a dozen book about the same fucking thing with different words for the title. Let's read some of the advertisements on his website:

      MONATOMIC GOLD
      One of the noble metals, monatomic gold can overcome gravity, bend space-time and raise human consciousness and frequency. An amazing substance.
      Click for more info

      TURN WATER INTO HYDRATION
      There is a better way than plain water to hydrate your body and improve your performance
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      THE SHEN CLINIC
      'When I need healing it's the first place I call' - David Icke
      Click for more info

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      Okauy dreamhope, let see if you can view my opinion with an open mind

      The fouder of this theory is David Icke, a man who took on a heavy burden of social ridicule in order to reveal the greatest secret in the world to mankind. This secret was that the Oligarchs have been apart of the same family since ancient Babylon and work for a malicious race of beings called the Cthulu.

      If David Icke was not a charleton before, he is now. He's published over a dozen book about the same fucking thing with different words for the title. Let's read some of the advertisements on his website:

      MONATOMIC GOLD
      One of the noble metals, monatomic gold can overcome gravity, bend space-time and raise human consciousness and frequency. An amazing substance.
      Click for more info

      TURN WATER INTO HYDRATION
      There is a better way than plain water to hydrate your body and improve your performance
      Click for more info

      THE SHEN CLINIC
      'When I need healing it's the first place I call' - David Icke
      Click for more info
      Fix your links.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dreamworld View Post
      Why do you think Top government secrets are kept secret?.. What if the government found out that a group of aliens bred us? The world would be in chaos.. Governments will lose legitimacy, especially since most of the world are religious zealots..

      How are we sheep? Wtf? Do you have a life with people you love and care about?
      Sheep meaning you follow what others are led to believe in the masses.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dreamworld View Post
      Why do you think Top government secrets are kept secret?.. What if the government found out that a group of aliens bred us? The world would be in chaos.. Governments will lose legitimacy, especially since most of the world are religious zealots.
      We have a right to know, even if aliens bred us, but they keep it to themselves and create control.

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