Thread: Waking up even more.

Wrong!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctzIEjjOfd4

That video with santa on a cross made me laugh.

But do you really think people would want a cashless society? Thats far too radical a change. People are not ready to live like that. How would you go about implementing a cashless society?

I think there are much easier solutions to the problems we face now. Before we go about getting rid of money, how about we get rid of the CIA? OR drug prohibition? Or maybe we could just fix the education system? DO you really expect a society full of people who feel that marijuana should be illegal to accept the idea of a cashless society? It'd go right over most peoples heads.

Originally Posted by stonedape

Thats far too radical a change. People are not ready to live like that. How would you go about implementing a cashless society?

People are not ready? Why can a bunch of caveman and also other animals survive without federal reserve notes but you are not ready for it? How indoctrinated is it to think life is not possible without federal reserve notes to glue us together...

This is a seriously brain melted mentality to assume a civilization needs federal reserve notes or 'purchasing power' in an economy involving something which is called 'money' which is a 'currency' that 'buys' things. It's pretty much a religious cult. Sometimes known as consumerism. I'm shocked how such an error cannot be recognized but I guess it explains the condition of society. Mind control is very dangerous with willing ignorant people in abundance.

Originally Posted by stonedape

Before we go about getting rid of money, how about we get rid of the CIA? OR drug prohibition? Or maybe we could just fix the education system?

This statement is truly stunning. Do you not realize all of these things run and survive because of a money system which relies of scarcity? Ever herd the saying money is the root of all evil? Ever wonder why that would be? A resource based economy does get rid of these things, and more. together with eliminating the root of corruption and people have much different incentive which does not involve handling some useless debt ridden paper notes in their wallet.


When you say cashless society, that doesn't mean a good society. The NWO wants a cashless society so you can be chipped and controlled more easy. Yet that is the insecure version of control. Either way without money has always being possible obviously controlled or not.

I'm not talking 'cashless' as cashless can mean just about anything. A credit card is cashless.

If you bothered to watch the videos resourced based means that there is enough resources that purchasing power is eliminated because things in abundance cannot be purchased any more than you can sell sand and sea shells from the beach! Go down to the beach and see if anyone will buy your sea shells. Try and sell ice to an Eskimo. I don't think you will have the purchasing power. If food runs out or something goes wrong I also hope you enjoy federal reserve notes as your main diet.



In reality this is the real use of money as a resource.

That is it's true place in the scheme of things....

When you realize that, you will actually start wiping your ass with it, then you won't even need the queen on it. She will go down the toilet where she belongs.

We have the technology know how and means to create an entire resourced based civilization, and we don't need to "overthrow" or get people 'ready' for anything. All we do is create an alternative while the old system collapses on it's own.

And it will collapse. The economy is fake anyway.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

People are not ready? Why can a bunch of caveman and also other animals survive without federal reserve notes but you are not ready for it?

Because there are more than 6 billion of us.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Mind control is very dangerous with willing ignorant people in abundance.

This is exactly why people are not ready for this. They have been convinced that if they give up the magic green coupons they will have no way to get food. People are very attached to money. How do you expect to change this so quickly? I think that a resource based economy might be a possibility if the entire mind set of society was changed, I just think that would be really fucking hard to accomplish in less then 1000 years unless we do some simpler things first.

People are trying pretty hard right now just to get cannabis legalized. They can't even get it medicinally approved. There's too much bureaucracy right now to start a resource based economy. What I'm saying is how do you get the people to want this type of thing? If you want to try this avenue, how do you combat the propaganda already in play? If it's so simple, why isn't it happening?

oh it's happening alright. There is ways to get out of the entire legal system and people are doing it. People are creating the alternative. The entire movement is a silent one. It's silenced.

If the majority as a whole doesn't choose to take responsibility guess where that road leads? Fingerprinted mall entrance, cashless microchip hardwired computer interface brained human. Internal shock treatment and computer enforced thought control. If they won't take responsibility they will go into the machinery and it will take their souls with it. That's what the dark forces want to achieve, utter destruction.

Only a little window of opportunity to turn this around before it's too late and take responsibility. This is an age old process coming to an end. That's why it's called "end game". Lets hope a critical mass of people choose love, or say goodbye to humans as a race.

Originally Posted by stonedape

People are trying pretty hard right now just to get cannabis legalized. They can't even get it medicinally approved. There's too much bureaucracy right now to start a resource based economy. What I'm saying is how do you get the people to want this type of thing? If you want to try this avenue, how do you combat the propaganda already in play? If it's so simple, why isn't it happening?

You like your pot huh? The sheeple in this town pay $60 a quarter oz for
it.....wtf!?!
I wonder what would happen if they legalized pot? I bet the governments
would love love love to legalize pot if they could get away with it. Isn't that
just a hell of a lot more money for them? If they legalized it, wouldn't they
try to control everything about it, including growing and distributing?
Would we also be allowed to grow it too then?
Would there be pot stores everywhere like the beer stores here in Canada?
Would they grow and sell us crap pot, or could you shell out a few more
bucks for dynamite pot as well?
What would happen to the poor small time pot dealers? lol
Or would it just continue on the way it always has with no legal worries?
I'll tell you one thing, if it was government controlled, it would be a hell
of a lot cheaper.
These are the things I think about. lol

What about just straight decriminalization? Can someone elaborate on the difference between that and legalization? I tried to ask my stoner friends but they're just like 'man, it's like, one costs more money, man'. Is there even a difference at all?

Originally Posted by Grod

What about just straight decriminalization? Can someone elaborate on the difference between that and legalization? I tried to ask my stoner friends but they're just like 'man, it's like, one costs more money, man'. Is there even a difference at all?

I'm not 100% sure which term is which, but one is if you take away jail time and just give a fine for weed possession under a certain weight limit (like a parking ticket), and the other means that weed possession has neither jail time nor a fine (like possessing alcohol).

Minervas, are you not a sheeple too? Don't you work for a living?
Don't you pay costly taxes? Don't you give ins.companies a lot of
money who very rarely ever have to pay out? Don't you also have
to pay for simple creature comforts?

This bugs the crap outta me....
You know how we try to call a company who provide us with some
kind of comfort? Say Hydro. You have an ordinary question. You'll
never get through to anyone. You'll just be sent from recording to
recording to recording or left on hold for an hour. But...if you
want through to their bill-payment department, they'll answer
almost immediately!
We are controlled and we have very little power. There's nothing
we can do about it that I can see. What's the solution?

No, they were actual gold. Get this straight. They represented gold in that if you had a $100 bill you OWNED $100 worth of gold.

That's not how it works with the federal reserve notes which is the currency today that is debt. So what is the relevance?

Understand this anyway. If something 'represents gold' that does not mean it is gold physically. That is just a piece of paper, a note that says you have gold. Duh. Who cares if you have a note. The note itself is not gold. I repeat the note itself is not gold but a representation. Understand the difference. Just because you can swap a note for some gold does not mean the note itself, is gold. Whoever can print that note has as much gold as they want don't they? if it 'represents it'. That can be exploited and was with the beginning of fractional banking. This was a stepping stone for the NWO to create fiat money. There is then a problem when the notes exceed what gold or resources exists. Hence inflation. It was always a ridiculous idea for people and this ignorance lead us into the fiat money loan system which is collapsing as we speak. Why do you think it's contracting, failing.

Once again the notes you get out of the ATM is not gold. They are notes belonging to the federal reserve and those notes belong to them plus interest. Gold is an entirely different thing. If you use the federal reserve notes to buy gold that works only as a trick, a deception. Gold value is independent from fed notes. When fed notes drop rapidly in value due to debt bubble bursting from unsustainable levels of debt created you won't be able to buy gold with it either as it will be as useful as trying to buy gold with leaves. That's when we have to face reality again. Atleast leaves are not a loan and grow on trees. Fed notes are just IOU playthings. When you pack away the toy box, back to reality again and gold has it's own value as a resource while fed notes are.....monopoly money play things, given to people as a loan to trade resources. I could make a bunch of bottle tops and say here you go, trade it for all resources but you owe me whatever bottle tops you use to trade, plus interest on them. How you can pay back bottle tops that don't exist since I would make them? How can u pay back bottle top interest? Impossible cause I make the bottle tops. So I would be demanding the impossible on the loan and you would work your butt off for nothing while I gathered it all. You give me back bla bla bottle top interest on the bottle tops I give (impossible). Now I have the bottle tops I make them and they represent resources. So I have all resources and your debt on the bottle tops plus interest is owed to me (federal reserve system). No it was a trick it's not resources it's debt. That's how the NWO controlled people on the fundamental level by creating a system that pretends something is a resource. Controlling that resource by making it unique so only you can own it. Giving it out to people and demanding interest back on it. That's how they have stolen the resources.

Because not all currency is that way. Maybe it is now, but it's still very possible to create one that is based in something. If you get rid of money you basically have to have some form of sociallism, which I'm not to big on.

Because not all currency is that way

Anything that is a 'currency' is because of scarcity existing making something 'rare' and so resorting to trading it. Selling ocean water at sea is not a currency because at sea ocean water is not rare. It's simple to understand but not when your brainwashed.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Wrong!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctzIEjjOfd4

Wrong and dancing queen song.....

I don't think that is a response.
This is my song to you now.

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

Because there are more than 6 billion of us.

Ok Scrooge. 6 billion = need for money. I believe you uncle Mcduck. Save those pennies.

ahh never mind.

Originally Posted by supreme

ahh never mind.

Delete your post, no use keeping it there. I deleted my response when you changed your mind.

Wow! You're fast!

Well then give me some of your resources. Some links I can read.
I will gladly read or study them. I'm too lazy to search for them,
and right now I have to go shopping. Also, I have no idea where
to look for it. You must know where some material can be found
on the subject. I just don't understand how we can change
the way things are?

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Delete your post, no use keeping it there. I deleted my response when you changed your mind.

I would have but I don't have a delete option? Do you?
I took it out because I thought it probably sounded stupid.

Minerva I'm looking for that video you posted once of the danish(?) techno, the only image in the video was of a bulldog looking straight at the screen. I can't remember the genre of techno or the name of the song, but it was very repetitive and driving, maybe under hardcore. Do you know what I'm talking about?

I'm too lazy to search for them,
and right now I have to go shopping.

Bless you. I hope you have a great shopping trip. Pm me or chat any time if you want to know more. I can give you resources as we go. Click edit and delete post to delete.

Grod I certainly know what your talking about. I will give you my psychological occult weapons openly.

here it is....

No, I don't need to wake up even more. No more coffee. Please.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Ok Scrooge. 6 billion = need for money. I believe you uncle Mcduck. Save those pennies.

No.

Tell me, how would work be exchanged in a wonderful money-free resource-based economy?

6 billion people = need for organization. Money brings more order than an Utopian would-be system.