Quote Originally Posted by stonedape View Post
A resource based economy would have to have a surplus of food. A drastic surplus to the point that all people would be able to get enough quality food and other essentials that they wouldn't want more. I think the idea is that if stop rich people from being ridiculously greedy and power hungry, then there is far more than enough to go around. Which in the case of food, there is. World hunger could be pretty easily solved if we allocate resources correctly. Though personally I don't think just getting rid of money is gonna do this. I think it would be easier to solve these problems within the system of money, then once society is functioning on some kind of intelligent level you could get rid of money as people would be able to learn how to treat others.(though I would rather keep currency as I think it would be easier to trade high quality goods that won't be in surplus such as musical instruments and new technology, somethings will never be in abundance.)

We could take the money we currently spend on military functions and solve hunger with just that in 10-20 years easy. Maybe spend it on creating an actual education system instead of brainwashing children with patriotic bullshit like we do now. The system of one man taking advantage of another(usually called government) will not end unless we do something to fix or end the current education system. It is set right now in a way that teaches that war is something that has to happen. As long as people have this mentality we will not be free. We will not know peace. As long as one man thinks he is better or smarter or different than another because of his location in on the planet we are gonna have a class system. The only way a currency free society(or any truly civilized society) can exist is through an end to the class system.

Money is not the root of all evil. The root of all evil is one man taking advantage of another man. Even if you get rid of money this can still happen(I think this may be drews point). What we need to do is educate people.

Chase those crazy baldheads outta town.
I think we agree in principle. My point was that scarcity will always exist at least for some things. Sure, in the future food may become post-scarcity. It's actually plausible. Right now in the Western world we already live in an economy where information, water, and to some extent even energy are post scarcity, so I can understand that notion. But I was trying to use food as a metaphor, which apparently some people didn't understand (Minervas).

You see, if and when food becomes truly post scarcity, humans will not be content to just sit around in the garden of Eden that they've created for themselves. People will want to create. But you can't immediately create an infinite amount of something. If someone invents a flying car, there won't instantaneously be 10 trillion flying cars. Scarcity will always always exist on the edge of what's possible. And hence, money will always and must always exist.

Don't confuse the messenger with the message. Fiat money is bad, but money itself is very good. This may be hard for some people to see when there are children starving in Africa right now, but some day in the future that won't be the case. At some point, food and good health will become so easy that everyone has it for free. So don't even try to use that example to bash money. If anyone wants to try to argue against money, it better damn well not mention fiat currency or poverty, because both of those have NOTHING to do with money.