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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      The bailout is the only thing to stop the economy from collapsing.
      You have it ass backwards, actually. The bailouts are fascistic and are what fundamentally cause a cancerous economy. Think about it: who are the ones saying that the economy needs more "regulation" and "government help"? The politicians. Who benefits the most from a fascist economy? The politicians, and their patsies in industry.

      I really don't want to commit reductio ad hitlerum here, but it applies. The exact same rhetoric being spouted by our politicians today was said by Hitler in the early 30s, and we all know how that bailout turned out.

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      The bailouts only make things worse. The economy is doing bad so what do we do? We spend even more money that we don't have! Here is a question for you. How do you dig yourself out of debt by spending money?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      The bailouts only make things worse. The economy is doing bad so what do we do? We spend even more money that we don't have! Here is a question for you. How do you dig yourself out of debt by spending money?
      Invest in the next generation..?

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      Quote Originally Posted by O'nus View Post
      Invest in the next generation..?

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      I sure hope that was a joke.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      I sure hope that was a joke.


      I await your undeniable economic logic.

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      Quote Originally Posted by O'nus View Post


      I await your undeniable economic logic.

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      I await the concrete explanation behind the cereal box rhetoric you just repeated. I can't respond unless you make yourself clear.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      I await the concrete explanation behind the cereal box rhetoric you just repeated. I can't respond unless you make yourself clear.
      Economic debate is folly but..

      For the sake of brevity; make it easier for more youth to get an education. Increase the tax on higher income brackets to help with this. Leave or decrease corporate tax. Give more leniency towards small business loans. Crack down on insurance companies policies underwriting process.

      As for international affairs and trade...

      I'm not sure how I feel about that one.

      Not something I am adamant about. So, in that respect, I am really curious what your thoughts are - if you are able to share them without being insulting.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      The bailouts only make things worse. The economy is doing bad so what do we do? We spend even more money that we don't have! Here is a question for you. How do you dig yourself out of debt by spending money?
      I totally agree with you on that. We need to cut spending big time and lower taxes big time. Then people will start buying stuff like crazy, and THAT is what stimulates an economy. Raising taxes leads to the buying of less, which inhibits an economy. I am absolutely terrified of what Obama might be about to do to our economy. I actually wonder if this country will even exist in ten years.

      And fuck the Republican party for abandoning real conservatism.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Raising taxes leads to the buying of less, which inhibits an economy.
      What of raising the taxes of higher income brackets and moderating the lower?

      As I said, even Bill O'Reilly agreed to this. But what about you?

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      Quote Originally Posted by O'nus View Post
      What of raising the taxes of higher income brackets and moderating the lower?

      As I said, even Bill O'Reilly agreed to this. But what about you?

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      No. The rich do too much spending for them to be inhibited. Let's lower their taxes a lot and watch the economy get jacked way up.

      I am more conservative than Bill O'Reilly on economics, but far more liberal than any Democrat in Congress on social issues. That makes me a misfit and the subject of a great deal of political hate from both major sides. Conservatives think I am a left wing fanatic, and liberals think I am a right wing fanatic. It's hard for me to talk about politics without pissing off 95% of the people who hear me.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      No. The rich do too much spending for them to be inhibited. Let's lower their taxes a lot and watch the economy get jacked way up.
      What is it better to spend money on:
      - Letting rich spend their investments on God knows where
      - Taking that money and offering towards school bursaries

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      Quote Originally Posted by O'nus View Post
      What is it better to spend money on:
      - Letting rich spend their investments on God knows where
      - Taking that money and offering towards school bursaries

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      Definitely the first one. I want the education system to be completely privatized. That would create competition, which would get the school workers working much harder. As it is, they in too many cases do a half ass job and get away with it. There is a reason our private school system is much better than our public school system. People always talk trash about how sorry our education system is. Well, they can't say it about our private school system. Privatizing the public school system would also do a lot for the economy.

      After we wrap up our major activities in Afghanistan and Iraq, which I hope will happen soon (Though I want bases to remain.), I want even military spending to go way down. I want most of our government spending to stop. It is time for the private sector to do pretty much everything. We have way too much government, and it is creating a fire that we keep trying to put out by setting more things on fire. Eventually, the country will be burned down if we don't move in completely the opposite direction.
      You are dreaming right now.

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