Thread: Do you believe in an eye for an eye?

With respect to the story below.. I do.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...tml#cnnSTCText

video:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...ml#cnnSTCVideo

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Seeing as we don't live in a morally absolute world I can already predict that the vast majority of answers will be "Depends on the circumstances".

This'd be a much more interesting poll if that option was removed...

Originally Posted by Goldney

Seeing as we don't live in a morally absolute world I can already predict that the vast majority of answers will be "Depends on the circumstances".

This'd be a much more interesting poll if that option was removed...

True.. and I did think about not giving that option but then I knew I'd get responses that would state that it would just "depend".

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We need an "other" option.


I wanted to vote "but hey, man. Relax, just live life, bro."

It depends really.

If someone kills two persons, you can kill him only once. And you won't gain anything in the process. He will be gone, but nothing will be gained. You can talk about justice and stuff, but that's just abstract. But, if you send him to jail to plant potatoes for the rest of his life, that way you are getting somethig back after all, especially if you send the potatoes to hungry kids or something like that.

Originally Posted by mysterious dreamer

It depends really.

If someone kills two persons, you can kill him only once. And you won't gain anything in the process. He will be gone, but nothing will be gained. You can talk about justice and stuff, but that's just abstract. But, if you send him to jail to plant potatoes for the rest of his life, that way you are getting somethig back after all, especially if you send the potatoes to hungry kids or something like that.

i would take him and torture him for the rest of his life.

Ok..

If I narrow it down to just THIS story about the woman being blinded by a guy she wouldn't date.. do you think she is justified in asking that he be blinded as well? I personally think so.. what do you think?

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Originally Posted by Clairity

Ok..

If I narrow it down to just THIS story about the woman being blinded by a guy she wouldn't date.. do you think she is justified in asking that he be blinded as well? I personally think so.. what do you think?

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yes, i think he should be blinded.

Originally Posted by Clairity

Ok..

If I narrow it down to just THIS story about the woman being blinded by a guy she wouldn't date.. do you think she is justified in asking that he be blinded as well? I personally think so.. what do you think?

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I think she should chillax.

and everyone should just
say

but hey, man.

Originally Posted by Clairity

Ok..

If I narrow it down to just THIS story about the woman being blinded by a guy she wouldn't date.. do you think she is justified in asking that he be blinded as well? I personally think so.. what do you think?

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yes, he should.but that's just in that circumstance.

Originally Posted by mysterious dreamer

It depends really.

If someone kills two persons, you can kill him only once. And you won't gain anything in the process. He will be gone, but nothing will be gained. You can talk about justice and stuff, but that's just abstract. But, if you send him to jail to plant potatoes for the rest of his life, that way you are getting somethig back after all, especially if you send the potatoes to hungry kids or something like that.

Self-contentment sounds pretty productive to me.

Originally Posted by De-lousedInTheComatorium

Self-contentment sounds pretty productive to me.

Ok, but then what if his dad comes to kill you? And then your cousin goes and kills his dad. Where would it end?

i would take him and torture him for the rest of his life.

If you're serious... well let's just say you're then being worse than him.

Ok..

If I narrow it down to just THIS story about the woman being blinded by a guy she wouldn't date.. do you think she is justified in asking that he be blinded as well? I personally think so.. what do you think?

Is she going to be happy once he's blind as well? Is that going to make her blindness easier? There's a saying, eye for an eye, the whole world goes blind.

i would never do anything bad to people who dont deserve it, but i suppose it really does just depend. for example, here in britain, we are not allowed to hurt someone who has broken into your home, unless they hurt you, infact you can only hurt them the same amount as they hurt you, so in that case, i would shoot his eye out even if he doesnt touch me. i know thats not exactly what you are getting at, but its close enough.

If someone ever killed a loved one of mine, I would hunt that person down and take his/her life at any cost.

In this situation, I actually believe that an eye for an eye would benefit the attacker, although in subtle ways. He obviously needs to gain perspective on what he has done, and imprisonment didn't accomplish that since they said that he was still unremorseful and even believes the lie he has been telling himself, that he did it out of love for her. Suffering a few drops of acid in his eyes and the resulting blindness might help him to realize that what he did to her was still worse, and that he did what he did for selfish, spiteful reasons and not for love after all. If it were a matter of killing him I would say no, but this will give him the rest of his life to live free and able to contemplate the decisions he made, and how they affected him and others.

no..I dont

and I find all your scenarios of revenge, at best, show how emotionally childish you are

I don't believe an eye for an eye, I think that we all have the free will to do whatever we want, including an eye for an eye and even greater if we choose.

Whether it's 'right/wrong' in the eyes of anyone doesn't matter imo.

Originally Posted by juroara

no..I dont

and I find all your scenarios of revenge, at best, show how emotionally childish you are

I think your lack of explanation and poor grammar, at best, show how childish you are.

let me put it this way:
Two enemies in an action movie both have a gun pointed at each other. why don't they just shoot? because they don't want to get shot back! that's exactly what would happen if the justice system was an eye for an eye. much less crime.

If we had an eye for an eye law, the only people to kill would be those who are suicide bombers and those who think they'd get away with it. believe it or not, most murderers don't think that they'll get away with it. they know they'll be put in jail and they think it's worth it. not many people would give up their life just to kill someone.

And about the thing mentioned earlier about "might as well drop two nukes on America for japan", war has a different set of laws. that's why a good soldier is set apart from a serial killer. that is unless a person is killing just to kill and not out of patriotism. the i would call them a serial killers.

Originally Posted by ClouD

I think your lack of explanation and poor grammar, at best, show how childish you are.

Thank you, but I actually pride myself in being extremely emotionally mature. I know what real emotional maturity is. What is that you would like me to explain?

I am against all forms of hatred and revenge. I find any outburst of hatred childish, and the need to punish someone because they hurt you is about as childish as far as emotions go.

killing someone because they killed your daughter isn't going to bring your daughter back. revenge never gives back what was taken. Its just an outlet of hatred.

you can make all sorts of arguments how its justifiable it is to hate someone and then murder them. but how are you going to deal with people like me? and thousands of others who find your act of hatred, just that, an act of hatred?

If you murder someone, you should be locked away - whether you call it revenge or not. Who knows what the limit of your hatred is, what other heinous act you consider justifiable because of an unchecked emotion. Hatred knows no bound. You give it fuel, it will burn like a wild fire. You will hurt someone you didn't intend to hurt. And hurt yourself

There is nothing to justify

Originally Posted by juroara

Thank you, but I actually pride myself in being extremely emotionally mature. I know what real emotional maturity is. What is that you would like me to explain?

I am against all forms of hatred and revenge. I find any outburst of hatred childish, and the need to punish someone because they hurt you is about as childish as far as emotions go.

killing someone because they killed your daughter isn't going to bring your daughter back. revenge never gives back what was taken. Its just an outlet of hatred.

you can make all sorts of arguments how its justifiable it is to hate someone and then murder them. but how are you going to deal with people like me? and thousands of others who find your act of hatred, just that, an act of hatred?

If you murder someone, you should be locked away - whether you call it revenge or not. Who knows what the limit of your hatred is, what other heinous act you consider justifiable because of an unchecked emotion. Hatred knows no bound. You give it fuel, it will burn like a wild fire. You will hurt someone you didn't intend to hurt. And hurt yourself

There is nothing to justify

I didn't say there was. People do as they do, simple as that.

That you have taken the perspective of hating hatred/negativity to negativity seems a bit hypocritical.
I do as I do, and so do you, but do you acknowledge the hypocrisy?

'Should be locked away', because killing someone is so terrible -- because killing cockroaches means you SHOULD go to jail.

Justify your taking of freedom instead of saying there is no justification for taking freedom. There is just as much justification both ways.

In sarcastic response, you should be sent to jail for sending someone to jail.
Disgust is less civil than hatred.