Thread: "Absolutely torture."

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Yes! Where are the marches against THAT?????

How does that even make sense? We say we're opposed to torture and you ask "Why aren't you opposed to torture?" Who's doing it isn't the issue. We can't make the terrorists change their behavior short of prevailing against them and removing the grounds for future terrorists to arise. We can control our own behavior.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I don't think we should do that. We just have a disagreement about the nature of waterboarding. I don't think it's torture if the person can call it off.

What kind of torturer doesn't say, "I'll stop if you tell me what I want to know?"

You ever noticed how the 8th amendment of the US constitution says the following? Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

It doesn't say American citizens, or even people any where in it. It simply says that cruel and unusual punishments should never be inflicted. Torturing is against the constitution.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

How does that even make sense? We say we're opposed to torture and you ask "Why aren't you opposed to torture?" Who's doing it isn't the issue. We can't make the terrorists change their behavior short of prevailing against them and removing the grounds for future terrorists to arise. We can control our own behavior.

And torturing quite possibly adds fuel to the fire. Terrorists are going to take the examples of American torture practices and use them to stir more anti-Americanism.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

How does that even make sense? We say we're opposed to torture and you ask "Why aren't you opposed to torture?" Who's doing it isn't the issue. We can't make the terrorists change their behavior short of prevailing against them and removing the grounds for future terrorists to arise. We can control our own behavior.



What kind of torturer doesn't say, "I'll stop if you tell me what I want to know?"

The sadistic kind. This is where I draw the line between torture and interrogation (sorry if it's been said before, I didn't want to read all 10 pages.)