Originally posted by dream-scape
You completely misunderstood what I was saying. I'll get somebody to translate it to Canadian for you
No I knew what you meant, I thougt it might have been a bit misleading to some people though. It was really just more of a smart-ass reply than anything. Sorry \"aboot\" the confusion \"eh\".
Originally posted by Haz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Haz)</div>
When light enters a black hole, will it speed up at any extent? As a black hole DOES warp space and time with it's gravitational force. Doesn't it?[/b]
No, light doesn't speed up. Yes a black hole does warp time and space. My knowledge of the quirks of black holes is kind of rusty. I suggest you do some research (read some Stephen Hawking).
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First, I highly doubt I would perceive 200 years at the speed of light. You never really explained why, but I would just reason for my argument, that because my particles are moving seperately, I could not realize what would happen, and would only full attain a \"conscious\" state once I stopped moving.
In your frame of reference, time always passes at the same rate for you. I'm not exactly sure where this whole \"my particles move seperately\" thing is coming from. But really, you can't travel at the speed of light anyways, making it a moot point and almost a completely pointless question to ask. Kind of equivalent to asking \"What if red was green?\"
Originally posted by Jospeh_Stalin
Without any offense (though I highly doubt you will not take offense to what I am about to say), I believe that you are not really presenting a good argument. All of what I say is speculation, but I do attempt to reason out what I am trying to tell you. What you say is \"fact\", but you give no reason to question what you have been taught or what you have learned. That is why we have \"theories\" on much physics, aside from gravity and such. I mean no disrespect to you as a person, but I just felt I should say this. While your statements do make sense in general terms and knowledge, I always question the given.
In this forum alone, I've been called a hypocrite, ignorant, close-minded, condescending, "Bitch No. 1" and probably many other things that I can't remember at this point in time. Did any of those things offend me? No. I don't get offended very easily. I could go on for hours about how easily others get offended...but that's a topic for another thread.
But anyways, it's perfectly logical for you to have much doubt in what I'm trying to say, it's some pretty counter-intuitive stuff to contemplate. But I assure you that there is huge amount of experimental evidence that supports the theories of relativity, I'll try to present some of that now:
Bending of light by gravity (ie. gravity warps space itself): This effect was conclusively observed during the solar eclipse of 1919, when the Sun was silhouetted against the Hyades star cluster, for which the positions were well known.
Peculiar orbit of Mercury: Since almost two centuries earlier astronomers had been aware of a small flaw in Mercury's orbit around the Sun, as predicted by Newton's laws. As the closest planet to the Sun, Mercury orbits a region in the solar system where spacetime is disturbed by t he Sun's mass. Mercury's elliptical path around the Sun shifts slightly with each orbit such that its closest point to the Sun (or "perihelion") shifts forward with each pass. Newton's theory had predicted an advance only half as large as the one actually observed. Einstein's predictions exactly matched the observation.
Red-shift: According to General Relativity, the wavelength of light (or any other form of electromagnetic radiation) passing through a gravitational field will be shifted towards redder regions of the spectrum. To understand this gravitational redshift, think of a baseball hit high into the air, slowing as it climbs. Einstein's theory says that as a photon fights its way out of a gravitational field, it loses energy and its color reddens. Gravitational redshifts have been observed in diverse settings.
There are dozens upon dozens of other observations and experiments that support relativity, if you're going to challenge it you better know you're stuff.
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