Thread: Terence McKenna and Time-Wave Zero. Prediction of 2012. Open-Minds only.

Originally Posted by Daniel Danciu

Yeah, I'm getting off the crazy train now.

You didn't have fun? ;__;

I did, I really did. But I found the ending to be a total cop-out. I hope they don't make a sequel.

The timewave zero thing, without the alternate world with no Jesus thing is very interesting. There was no Jesus in this world either, by the way. I love Terence McKenna. I believe he is a shaman and he has seen something coming over the horizon or rather we are approaching it. he calls it "The Transcendental Object at the End of Time"(TOAEOT).
My interpretation is that 2012 we will become lucid. That is when we will realize that we are this TOATEOT. As far as alternate realities go, these are just more dreams as far as I'm concerned. I will have to summon Terence McKenna in my next lucid dream and have a talk with him. Should be fun.
The End of time will be exciting, and no, It doesn't mean the end of the Universe. There are many things going to happen that astronomers aknwoledge as well. Major Solar flares which shall definately supercharge our nerves with some electro magnetic energy. Also should cause some northern lights all over the whole world, which ties in to the Hopi prophecies. Also the Tibetan prophecies also say, winter solstice 2012. Also the Earth's electromagnetic field is frcturing as we speak. Should be in for an intense electro-magnetic storm. Also passing through a major photon belt at that time which should light up matter from the inside, like in a dream there is light even though you are in bed with your eyes closed and the lights off. Matter will be light. Aliens coming, I'm betting. I already communicate to some in my dreams. Anyway, this is why I practice lucid dreaming.

Those are dreams...

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

The timewave zero thing, without the alternate world with no Jesus thing is very interesting. There was no Jesus in this world either, by the way. I love Terence McKenna. I believe he is a shaman and he has seen something coming over the horizon or rather we are approaching it. he calls it "The Transcendental Object at the End of Time"(TOAEOT).
My interpretation is that 2012 we will become lucid. That is when we will realize that we are this TOATEOT. As far as alternate realities go, these are just more dreams as far as I'm concerned. I will have to summon Terence McKenna in my next lucid dream and have a talk with him. Should be fun.
The End of time will be exciting, and no, It doesn't mean the end of the Universe. There are many things going to happen that astronomers aknwoledge as well. Major Solar flares which shall definately supercharge our nerves with some electro magnetic energy. Also should cause some northern lights all over the whole world, which ties in to the Hopi prophecies. Also the Tibetan prophecies also say, winter solstice 2012. Also the Earth's electromagnetic field is frcturing as we speak. Should be in for an intense electro-magnetic storm. Also passing through a major photon belt at that time which should light up matter from the inside, like in a dream there is light even though you are in bed with your eyes closed and the lights off. Matter will be light. Aliens coming, I'm betting. I already communicate to some in my dreams. Anyway, this is why I practice lucid dreaming.

During a solar flare, there's a sudden, explosive increase in the earth's electromagnetic field. These major solar flares are predicted to take place 2012.

What interests me is that the pineal gland ( responsible for dreams, OBE's, and NDE's ) responds in accordance to that of earth's electromagnetic field. If there is a huge jump in the EM field it'll cause the gland to vibrate. The pineal gland vibrates the whole time we're asleep...if you wake up prematurely you may feel a vibration in your head, it's a part of sleep paralysis. I think melatonin induces sleep paralysis.

Now this is the kicker, the "chill down the spine" you get when you hear your favorite song or ( love someone or something? ) is an emotional reaction and is actually an EM-light wave. Some people can "naturally" flex the "muscle in the head" (pineal gland) constantly and the gland will start vibrating. I've experienced this personally, and it IS euphoric.

The Pineal Gland is a magneto sensitive organ, what means that it is sensitive to electromagnetic fields (EMF). It is sensitive to electromagnetic waves from computer monitors, cellular phones, microwave ovens, high voltage lines, etc.. Electromagnetic fields suppress the activity of the Pineal Gland and reduce melatonin production. EMF also affect serotonin.

This is all low-level EM-fields though. Cut off all electrical appliances ( except fridge) and see how you feel. Peace and serenity.

If there is a huge jump in the earth's EM-field the pineal gland will be more active. We'd most likely exist in a heightened state of awareness. We'd also be in a constant state of what feels like a 50miligram Percocet high.....bliss( or that body vibration from sleep paralysis ) and would become lucid every night that we sleep because the pineal gland is fully active and vibrating.

The more active the pineal gland is, the more melatonin is produced. Melatonin IS an antioxidant, it strengthens the immune system, and it causes a huge increase in vivid dreaming, AND prolongs REM sleep time. It may even help with autism.

Some people on this site are already reporting that they have successfully done shared dreaming. This jump in consciousness will be our last step in human evolution...free to do whatever, universal co-creation. Definitely sounds like a heaven-on-earth to me.

Alex if you haven't researched the Mayan calender, you need not speak on it, because it DOES NOT predict the end of the world. That end of the world crap is just government propaganda to strike fear into people.

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

If there is a huge jump in the earth's EM-field the pineal gland will be more active. We'd most likely exist in a heightened state of awareness. We'd also be in a constant state of what feels like a 50miligram Percocet high.....bliss( or that body vibration from sleep paralysis ) and would become lucid every night that we sleep because the pineal gland is fully active and vibrating.

man, i hope so. i'd love to see people's reactions. there's so much potential, regardless of there being EM-field changes or not.

i agree that shared dreaming represents a great step in our development.

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

Alex if you haven't researched the Mayan calender, you need not speak on it, because it DOES NOT predict the end of the world. That end of the world crap is just government propaganda to strike fear into people.

I think you dropped your tin foil hat.

The end of the world crap is peddled by people who want to sell books and movies. The government couldn't give a rats ass.

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

Some people on this site are already reporting that they have successfully done shared dreaming. This jump in consciousness will be our last step in human evolution.

If this is really true, don't waste any more time talking to me!

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/...lenge-faq.html

Get a petition off to James Randi and collect your million dollars. If you can prove shared dreaming exists, you get the cool million. If the 'some people on this site' really are telling the truth, I'm sure they'd like a million US dollars.

Originally Posted by Alextanium

Get a petition off to James Randi and collect your million dollars. If you can prove shared dreaming exists, you get the cool million. If the 'some people on this site' really are telling the truth, I'm sure they'd like a million US dollars.

http://www.asdreams.org/telepathy/ke...ream_event.htm

http://www.asdreams.org/documents/19...p_protocol.htm

The first link is an account of a mutual dream

Here is a link to his page, Ed Kellogg's, with whom I studied a little:
http://dreamtalk.hypermart.net/membe...d_kellogg.html

Well, anyway...
There is other evidence that is not from a laboratory. In fact, the pineal gland IS responsible for NDEs, OBEs, etc. In fact it is the DMT in the gland that is responsible for these experiences. The DMT releases in a mother when she gives birth, it releases in the baby when he is born, it releases when you dream, it releases when you die. And for anyone who has done DMT would KNOW beyond a doubt that DMT is responsible for these experiences. He would not need some scientific study to prove this to him. Has anyone here ever tried DMT? If you try DMT you WILL have a near death experience. If it wasn't illegal new age hucksters could make a fortune selling NDEs at workshops in California!
Now , as far as the Solar Flare phenomenon: yes, the last one was in 2001 and yes, things did happen. Everyone in the town I lived in in Oregon saw the Northern lights, which hasn't happened that far south in my lifetime. Also, there were massive power outages and electronic malfunctions, disruptions in wireless communications, etc. And guess what? Scientists say that that was a small insignificant solar storm, but the nest one is going to be HUGE, say scientists.
Now, I don't know about the pineal gland vibrating. I have experienced the vibrations Hard Wired speaks of but I never interpreted it as the pineal gland vibrating but more of a subjective experience. But that doesn't discount that it is a valid phenomenon.

One thing is for sure: 2012 will not be the end of the world, but things will change, maybe slowly and gently, or maybe drastically and dramatically. But life will go on, and mass consciousness will change for the better. My teacher is of the opinion that it will change gently. But I look forward to finding more friends in the fourth dimension with me

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

http://www.asdreams.org/telepathy/ke...ream_event.htm

http://www.asdreams.org/documents/19...p_protocol.htm

The first link is an account of a mutual dream

Here is a link to his page, Ed Kellogg's, with whom I studied a little:
http://dreamtalk.hypermart.net/membe...d_kellogg.html

Then call up ol' Ed and get him to contact Randi. There's a million dollars in it for him.

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

During a solar flare, there's a sudden, explosive increase in the earth's electromagnetic field. These major solar flares are predicted to take place 2012.

The last was in 2001 and nothing special happened. The next is in 2013.

What interests me is that the pineal gland ( responsible for dreams, OBE's, and NDE's )

No it isn't.

responds in accordance to that of earth's electromagnetic field.

No it doesn't.

If there is a huge jump in the EM field it'll cause the gland to vibrate. The pineal gland vibrates the whole time we're asleep...

No it doesn't.

Now this is the kicker, the "chill down the spine" you get when you hear your favorite song or ( love someone or something? ) is an emotional reaction and is actually an EM-light wave.

The nervous system doesn't use light.

Some people can "naturally" flex the "muscle in the head" (pineal gland) constantly and the gland will start vibrating. I've experienced this personally, and it IS euphoric.

No you haven't because it's biologically nonsense. The pineal gland is not a muscle, it is a gland, and it does not vibrate.

This is all low-level EM-fields though. Cut off all electrical appliances ( except fridge) and see how you feel. Peace and serenity.

The Earth's magnetic field is stronger than those things and you can't turn it off.

If there is a huge jump in the earth's EM-field the pineal gland will be more active.

No it won't.

Some people on this site are already reporting that they have successfully done shared dreaming.

Give me one instance in which somebody has successfully given another some kind of incontrovertible information such as a code via dreams.

Alex if you haven't researched the Mayan calender, you need not speak on it, because it DOES NOT predict the end of the world. That end of the world crap is just government propaganda to strike fear into people.

I don't personally recall governments disseminating information about the apocalypse.

So people that do feel their pineal gland vibrating is crazy right? lol

Everyone' pineal gland vibrates during sleep, this can even be experienced if you wake up prematurely, or if you have successfully WILDed..but wait..we're all crazy huh. Xei your so in denial it's not even funny.

I don't have to argue with you....I already know the truth...because I've experienced this. And any scientific evidence I post to support any metaphysical claims, you ignore it, so this would all be a waste of precious time. Sometimes I think you say shit JUST to start up an argument with someone. lol good luck

All you had to do was provide a single credible source for your claims.

I just Googled for 'pineal gland vibrations' and didn't get a single meaningful result for it.

How and why would a gland vibrate anyway?

And how the hell did you know it was your pineal gland vibrating??