Thread: Video - World's Largest Hatchery - Um, wow.

I'm so glad I'm not in the ag business. Creating food is gross, no matter how you look at it. If I had my way, I wouldn't have to eat at all. I would just photosynthesize by the pool all day.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

I'm so glad I'm not in the ag business. Creating food is gross, no matter how you look at it. If I had my way, I wouldn't have to eat at all. I would just photosynthesize by the pool all day.

Heh heh.

This is a most interesting and informative thread. Thanks for presenting all sides so well everyone.
I haven't watched the videos or read the links yet (I've been catching up on Hulu ), but I will before I go back to the "Farm".
The Buddhists perspective particularly interested me (not that I agree 100%... but it's pretty close lol).

Back in 2001 I bought around 75 rabbits of differing ages, sexes, and types with the intent of going into the rabbit business (for both meat rabbits and pets). I was completely ignorant about them though and it ended disasterously for the most part. But when I bought them, the lady selling practically gave me all of her hens and her rooster.
I didn't think I would enjoy raising chickens at all but it was terrific.
Unlike rabbits, chickens are VERY hardy and "hard to kill" (via ignorance). They were free range (no enclosure at all) and they thrived. The kids loved searching the yard for the eggs (even though they roosted in their coop, they liked to lay their eggs under fallen branches and cars lol).
When I let the rabbits out of their cages they too began thriving.

I was also "given" three pheasants and learned just how bad beaks can be. The owner had warned me that the male had a taste for blood and she wasn't kidding. Though they had more than enough room to roam, he pecked the female and killed the chick.
I later learned that chickens can develope the same bad habit (though I never personally had a problem).

I think education is the number one thing that can help unnecessary abuse and deaths of animals. But even that isn't good enough. It seems the world we live in becomes more and more apathetic with the passing of each year. If it doesn't directly effect someone, a lot of people simply don't care.

When I was a kid, my uncle took me fishing. We brought back several fish and I cried and became VERY angry when he de-scaled his catches without first removing the heads. I hd no problem killing my fish and eating them, but I thought the least I could do was put them out of their misery quickly.
I was a wierd kid though. When I was 5 my grandma caught me playing with a poisonous bug. She told me to get rid of it but I kept finding it and never had a problem lol. When I was 7 and living in Puerto Rico, I caught and played with the tarantulas, "poisonous" bull frogs, tree frogs and hung lizards from my ears as if earrings At around the same age, I pulled the wings off a fly and then cried for days.

Humans are supposed to be more than mere animals. We have the capacity for empathy, compassion and mercy. Such things simply aren't hard-wired into the brains of animals. They don't have moral delimas (sp).
It seems many people want to shed their humanity to be just another animal controlled by instincts and desires alone. :/

And here I am, having high and lofty ideals, eating at McD's and smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day. We work with what we have, I guess. I would love to have my own operational and private farm, but I'm too lazy.

Oh yeah... chickens CAN and DO thrive in the wild. Just go to Kauai, Hawaii. It's an awesome sight
http://www.govisithawaii.com/2008/07...wild-chickens/
http://citynoise.org/article/3625

I just ate some spicey chicken from KFC, it was good.

Oh jeez, this again.

Essentially, I only have one question;

What is the alternative? How ought these chicks be separated and prepared for eating?

The fact is, all of humanity is not vegan nor wants to be. We need facilities to farm chicks. How ought they be done then?

Now people say, "Nicely.. sympathetically" but what does that even mean? We sing to the chicks before knifing them? How ought they be killed?

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Originally Posted by O'nus

We sing to the chicks before knifing them? How ought they be killed?

Crucifixion!