Thread: The Nonreligious Are More Intelligent

F**k you. Call me a troll all you want. I really don't care about the opinion of you and Onus. I'll show you a flame war, because this is hardly close to one.

This just in you, you and your posse aren't the whole forum.


Still no proper explanation of the outlier.. But why should you have to address something that invalidates your data?\


Please for the love of the goddess, think before you make your next post instead of repeating yourself and explain why their is an outlier.


Whites are more intelligent.

Men are more intelligent.


I wonder how that could possibly offend anyone? But I know you don't care about offending anyone, because of causation. You know even in the world of science, people should learn how to communicate their information in a way that won't offend.

For example, look at this article...

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html

Should I now start a topic titled, White people are more intelligent than black people ?

After all their is data supporting it..

Originally Posted by Mario92

Flame wars. I've never seen someone so upset before...

Look, it's all very simple. O'nus created a topic with a bold statement partly because statistics show a correlation (not causation) between religiosity and intelligence (which they do), and partly to encourage debate. Simple. Let it die.

If you would take a second look at the statistics, we can, in fact, see a general trend between religion and intelligence (specifically ACH thinking). We're not claiming, "Yeah, we're atheist, and we're the smartest bastards in the world. All you other little religious bastards are inferior to our awesome intellect." Nobody claims this.

This study is useful, too. For one thing, it shows that it may be a very good idea to remove religion entirely from the educational system. It's not here simply to stroke the egos of atheists and the non-religious.

Now please, think about your next post first. If you retaliate with a big wall of flame or bait, you cement your standing as a troll.

Originally Posted by DeathCell

Fuck you. Call me a troll all you want. I really don't care about the opinion of you and Onus.

This just in you, you and your posse aren't the whole forum.

*facepalm*

You really are a troll, aren't you? I try to be nice and logical, and I get flamed at. Brilliant. Are you nine or something? Grow up.

If you don't like the thread, you may leave. The door is right there, mate.

Originally Posted by Mario92

*facepalm*

You really are a troll, aren't you? I try to be nice and logical, and I get flamed at. Brilliant. Are you nine or something? Grow up.

If you don't like the thread, you may leave. The door is right there, mate.

Listen here you child. I don't take your little ultimatums. You are in no way in control of my actions. So if you demand something from me I will do the opposite, especially when you've added less than me to this debate. Grow up, perhaps you should pull that mote out of your own eye first darling.

I don't like the thread, but I'm not leaving.


P.S. Please think about not being a moron in your next post, or your place as pointless poster will be cemented.



It's funny when people come in preaching moral superiority or some sort of perfectness when they are in fact themselves acting like a troll. You're the one who keeps addressing me with nothing, certainty no rebuttal to my arguments.



*So far any arguments I've posted you've ignored...

Originally Posted by DeathCell

Listen here you child. I don't take your little ultimatums. You are in no way in control of my actions. So if you demand something from me I will do the opposite, especially when you've added less than me to this debate. Grow up, perhaps you should pull that mote out of your own eye first darling.

I don't like the thread, but I'm not leaving.

P.S. Please think about not being a moron in your next post, or your place as pointless poster will be cemented.

It's funny when people come in preaching moral superiority or some sort of perfectness when they are in fact themselves acting like a troll. You're the one who keeps addressing me with nothing, certainty no rebuttal to my arguments.

*So far any arguments I've posted you've ignored...

Your digression and trolling have gone far enough. Any further derailing will be deleted. It has not only been myself that have asked you to quote your apparent "point" or "argument" and you have failed in doing so. Instead, you attack in turn. This only proves, not only your lacking ability to debate, but respect for other posters.

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Originally Posted by O'nus

Your digression and trolling have gone far enough. Any further derailing will be deleted. It has not only been myself that have asked you to quote your apparent "point" or "argument" and you have failed in doing so. Instead, you attack in turn. This only proves, not only your lacking ability to debate, but respect for other posters.

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That. DeathCell, if you continue your flame wars, I'll ask a mod that's not involved to delete your posts.

2 1/2 years later and the same tired squabbles still prevalent here at dreamviews, I see. Can't say I'm too surprised.

I liken threads like this to masturbation. It has one sole purpose, self-gratification in its most shameless form. Similarly, doing this in a public format should be equally embarrassing. And in the end, all that remains is a sticky mess, exhaustion, and a fading high back down to the oh-so-familiar plateau that made indulging in such an idea in the first place seem like a good idea at the time.

People shouldn't be too surprised or judgmental when some participants respond to this thread in the exact way the thread was designed to have them respond. After all, the thread seems to have been created for at least one of two reasons: 1.) For like-mind peers to sit around and enjoy the smell of their own farts [/southpark] 2.) To antagonize those who feel differently, not for the sake of civil debate, but for the sake of childish teasing/torment.

Antagonizing people to respond in a less than civil manner, and then turning around criticizing them for doing so is pretty sad IMO. This is not to say that I am defending the person(s) in question, but what did you really expect would happen when you created this thread? Surely you knew it was going to get someone all fired up...

If you can't deal with it, don't purposefully provoke people any more.

AS FOR THE TOPIC AT HAND, I think two words can sum it up nicely: Spurious Correlation.

I love the mob mentality in this topic, who all gang up and call me a troll.

I've constantly repeated myself onus with my argument, you are a troll.. First I left it up to Alric, because he came to this topic before and addressed many issues. Than when I give you my own personal argument it's not good enough? Because you keep ignoring my words and say I didn't... It's not my fault you guys have reading comprehension problems.

All your study proves it that countries that are less developed tend to be more religious and less intelligent... America being more religious and more intelligent shows my point to be true.

Alric seems to have this under control already, he can smell a fishy study obviously.

Than their was the information I provided that contradicted your Lynn study, but you made no attempt to address those problems... I know I didn't type it myself, but this entire topic is not really your own research...

Perhaps Onus, if people don't agree with you.. instead of calling them a troll after you were being insulting yourself.... you just agree to disagree..

Or maybe the fact that the US is a huge outlier might show you a problem with how the statistics were gathered. If you are well versed in statistics you must understand the importance of outliers?

Perhaps a few links will make you understand a little bit clearer.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Outlier.html

"An outlier is an observation that lies outside the overall pattern of a distribution (Moore and McCabe 1999). Usually, the presence of an outlier indicates some sort of problem. This can be a case which does not fit the model under study, or an error in measurement. "

P.S. I find it laughable the so apparent hypocrisy calling me a troll, but for some reason... Onus can say whatever rude things he feels like without so much as a whimper from Mario or Kromoh, but it's not too much of a surprise.. you guys are all on the "same side", I'm sure that's how your mind looks at it..


Onus, I'll show you and Mario some respect when you show me some as well.. You paint yourselves as some morally superior, highly educated debaters, but really when it comes down the nitty gritty your just as rude and obnoxious as the rest of us.