Thread: How do you feel about gun control?

Originally Posted by ClouD

Then Somalia should have more trained officers with guns patrolling those waters.

The area is way too big for officers to cover it effectively. The pirates are going to have guns, guaranteed. With that being the case, people moving through the waters should be allowed a chance at defending themselves. The way it is now, pirates have guns and their victims don't. That represents what happens in any dangerous area where guns are illegal. Criminals love situations like that. People who obey the law don't.

Originally Posted by Odd_Nonposter

Legend also has it that the Soviet Union knew that it could never successfully pull off a land invasion of the United States because so many of the U.S.'s citizens were armed.

Every government in the world knows that if they invaded the U.S., they would have the most powerful military in the world to deal with AND tens of millions of citizens with guns. That is why we will never be invaded by a military.

I believe everyone should have a gun, and that government "permits" are anti-freedom and ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

The area is way too big for officers to cover it effectively. The pirates are going to have guns, guaranteed. With that being the case, people moving through the waters should be allowed a chance at defending themselves. The way it is now, pirates have guns and their victims don't. That represents what happens in any dangerous area where guns are illegal. Criminals love situations like that. People who obey the law don't.

The government should take action and allow carrying of guns in those waters with a permit and provide free training.

Too lazy to read through the posts, so this is in reference to the first poster:
It has been shown that guns aren't all that great in terms of self-defense, and studies show that you're far more likely to shoot a loved one than an actual intruder. For hunting purposes, however, guns do come in handy...despite the availability of crossbows, but that's another debate. So yeah, I think people should be allowed to own guns...within reason. No one should have access to fully-automatic or sub-machine guns, etc. or excessively high-calibur weaponry. Also, people should really be a lot more responsible with the way they store their firearms...kids stumble upon handguns and accidentally shoot each other all the time. It really is quite sad.

So, while I do not feel the government should ban guns, they should at least start passing a few restrictions, or leave it up to the state governments to pass custom restrictions. Meh...never really impacted me directly.

The question is, why should we not be able to have assault rifles? Should all 300 million of us be restricted from legitimately owning and operating these weapons, just to try and prevent one single incident such as the one that happened in california in the 90's, with two guys robbing a bank with assault rifles?

As if they would have brought .22's instead, if they knew assault rifles were illegal.

Man i cant remember what the date was on that, but i think it was in the 90's. Two guys got in a shootout with police at a bank in california. It lasted for hours.

Anyways, if it was after 1994, then assault weapons were illegal anyways. This goes to show that making something illegal isnt going to stop criminals from getting it, by definition a criminal is someone who breaks the law

Originally Posted by Hercuflea

The question is, why should we not be able to have assault rifles? Should all 300 million of us be restricted from legitimately owning and operating these weapons, just to try and prevent one single incident such as the one that happened in california in the 90's, with two guys robbing a bank with assault rifles?

As if they would have brought .22's instead, if they knew assault rifles were illegal.

Man i cant remember what the date was on that, but i think it was in the 90's. Two guys got in a shootout with police at a bank in california. It lasted for hours.

Anyways, if it was after 1994, then assault weapons were illegal anyways. This goes to show that making something illegal isnt going to stop criminals from getting it, by definition a criminal is someone who breaks the law

True, but it makes it a lot harder for the criminal. At least they won't be able to go knocking on their neighbor's door and ask to borrow their assault rifle for the weekend. Besides, how often would a person use such a weapon, and for what purposes? It's excessive and wholly unnecessary firepower.

The whole purpose is to protect from, you know the drill, "all enemies foreign and domestic"

That's why we used to have militias back before they all got incorporated into the Army. The average farmer in early america had the same level of firepower as any soldier in the United States military. Nowadays a civilian can't hardly own a 9 millimeter without going through hours of processing and bureaucracy, while our military could literally blow up the entire planet. (make it uninhabitable)

Sadly, i think the days of us being able to overthrow the government if it gets out of control have come and gone. But that still doesn't mean that we dont have the right to. Note that I am not calling for violence, but any unlawful attack on the civilian populace by either a foreign force or our own government justifies retaliation.

Originally Posted by Mario92

Besides, how often would a person use such a weapon, and for what purposes? It's excessive and wholly unnecessary firepower.

If you are surrounded by a gang of thugs about to attack you or have intruders in several different parts of your living room, an automatic weapon is much better to use than a pistol, rifle, or shotgun. If you drive up into a riot where the rioters are attacking people in their cars, what kind of gun would you like to have?

The thugs are going to have automatic weapons, law or no law. I should be allowed a chance to match them.

A war on guns would be like the war on drugs.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

If you are surrounded by a gang of thugs about to attack you or have intruders in several different parts of your living room, an automatic weapon is much better to use than a pistol, rifle, or shotgun. If you drive up into a riot where the rioters are attacking people in their cars, what kind of gun would you like to have?

The thugs are going to have automatic weapons, law or no law. I should be allowed a chance to match them.

A war on guns would be like the war on drugs.

Okay, how often does a person find themselves surrounded by heavily-armed thugs? Do you really think an assault rifle would make any difference? As soon as you fire the first shot, you're dead. You could do about the same damage with a pistol. Either way, you're going down. Besides, when you reach for a pistol, you can at least be a bit discreet about it. What are you gonna do with an assault rifle? "Hang on a sec...I just gotta get set up here. Please don't shoot at me quite yet." Riiight...