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      I'd like to try LSD and Ecstasy. I would just like to know more about it. I've made up my mind about Ecstasy and I'll try it.

      But as for the LSD, I kind of think I'm to young to do it. *!!DO NOT FLAME ME, I COULD HAVE MY "FACTS" WRONG!!* I heard if you have a bad trip, it could scar you mentally and you could have breakdowns. Or, it stays in your system (or spinal cord?) and it comes back randomly and give you an unexpected trip.

      But uhhh, please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd love to know more about it! As for the video, I'll just pirate it haha.
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      Ok tel me why my friend who did acid a redicolous amount of times, is pretty much insane now?


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      Quote Originally Posted by Elem3nt0 View Post
      Ok tel me why my friend who did acid a redicolous amount of times, is pretty much insane now?
      Maybe this is why..?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Motumz View Post
      if you have a bad trip, it could scar you mentally and you could have breakdowns. Or, it stays in your system (or spinal cord?) and it comes back randomly and give you an unexpected trip.

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      Maybe he has dementia now? Or schizophrenia? Maybe a bad trip he had induced one of those mental illnesses that were already set in to effect him in his later years.

      But I dunno, just speculating. You aren't really supplying any info other than he did acid, and he is now "pretty much insane".
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      Well i mean what else is there to say? He admits it himself that doing acid so many times has made him feel a bit crazy in the head.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Elem3nt0 View Post
      Well i mean what else is there to say? He admits it himself that doing acid so many times has made him feel a bit crazy in the head.
      So? That's his fault. No offense. You can abuse anything.. especially drugs. I'm not saying that's what he did, because for all I know he had a horrid trip. You should definitely ask him what he thinks went wrong, and what his regrets were. And.. what his positive feelings towards LSD are. He could give us some more insight on LSD.


      Also, I read somewhere on here that there is 2 types of LSD. 1 type makes you hallucinate and trip. The 2nd type just gives you a greater understanding of things, and expands your knowledge with no risk of having a bad trip or anything.

      Now maybe the hallucinogenic LSD type does what the 2nd type does as well.. not sure. But does anyone know? If so, I would like to try the 2nd type for sure.
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      Where'd you hear that? I've gotten 2 types of acid before too, bunk and dynomite. From my experience the stuff that doesn't make you see much has been acid cut with speed.
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      Quote Originally Posted by stonedape View Post
      Where'd you hear that? I've gotten 2 types of acid before too, bunk and dynomite. From my experience the stuff that doesn't make you see much has been acid cut with speed.
      Ahh I see. And I'm not sure, it was just while I was on the internet somewhere.

      But that's cool, maybe I can buy some good acid and cut it and take an adderall pill. Then I could get more experienced with 2 acid experiences. Then move on to heavier doses.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Elem3nt0 View Post
      Ok tel me why my friend who did acid a redicolous amount of times, is pretty much insane now?
      Perhaps he took something that was only passed off as acid but was really god knows what?


      From what I understand, a lot of acid sold these days isn't real LSD 25. People say that they went crazy from acid, but who knows what they were REALLY on? Perhaps it was acid, perhaps not. If it were legal to sell in stores, we would probably know the real dangers, and my bet is a lot less people would say that they "went crazy after taking acid".
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      Quote Originally Posted by Elem3nt0 View Post
      Ok tel me why my friend who did acid a redicolous amount of times, is pretty much insane now?
      Well most likely your friend either did it way too often. I myself take it every couple of months. Now I haven't taken it in more than a year. Some people take it 3 times a month or more which I would consider too much.

      Also your friend could have been taking lsd doses way too high at once. I myself know that 1/2 a blotter is "half a trip". A gentle but defenite psychedelic touch to an otherwise sober, normal day. Ad 1 whole blotter provides 1 full blown, deep psychedelic experience. I only once took 1 and 1/2 blotter. I couldn't stop laughing and found it hard to stay focussed on my actions. I found this dose to be a bit dissociating; My mind was wandering away from my physical body. Taking more than that could possibly be troublesome.

      I prefer to stay aware and in control of my actions so allthough that experience was by no means troublesome, I prefer to keep my acid doses at maximally 1 hit.I've seen people take acid very irresponsibly; In messy, crowded, hectic enviroments, in much too high doses, in combination with cocaine, alcohol and/or speed. These people will eat and snort anything that passes along. They usually have serious issues which they refuse to face and resolve to begin with. I expect 70% of these people to be dead or in a psych ward before they're 40.

      But I know many people that take LSD once a year or once every 6 months or so in a company of friends;
      Fellow students. And fellow scientists. Psychologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists. Musicians and Painters.
      Their LSD experiences yielded deeper understanding, deeper vision, less inhibited imagination which lead to new medicines, new ways of psychotherapy, study of the human psyche, magnificent stimulation of artistic inspiration for graphic art, literature, poetry, theatre and music, scientific and philosophical concept development. In simple words for these people, with this intent, LSD incredibly enhances our intelligence and intellect. By removing the barriers(Ego) between the Subconscious Intuition and the Conscious concrete knowledge, Intuition and knowledge are connected better and work together better.

      So what that means is that what kind of an effect LSD has is completely decided by who takes it, in what dose/frequency and with what intent.
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      I've heard of pure MDMA. But uhhh, the ecstasy I'm trying to find is only speed based.

      But by the way, there is only 2 deaths a year by ecstasy. They probably just took WAY to much and their heart just stopped.

      I'll find a good dealer, cut it in half. Take a half, if I in fact feel good and want more, I will take the other half. Simple as that.


      Also, if I ever do find pure MDMA, I would probably combine it with a half of a speed pill to start things off haha.
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      MDMA is a Shulgin creation. LSD is a Hofmann creation.
      Both these chemists used their own substances. They did it wisely. Carefully dosed, in the right envroment, with a pure and clear intent. Didn't use it very frequently.

      Both whave lived their lives as very succesfull, happy and stable people. Hofmann died at age 107 recently. Happy and Sane. He's been known to take LSD with his friends and fellow scientists every year. It never hurt him in any way. Only helped him.
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      Yah most ecstasy pills are little more than 10% actual MDMA and the rest is usually low grade speed and behavioral meds and god knows what. Molli is the street name for pure MDMA, which is the only form of it I would take or recommend taking.

      By the way I knew Fishman did a lot of acid but I didn't know every day. If that's true, kudos to him, but I still say tripping everyday is way too much. Sick drummer though. I think Trey said Fishman when he was asked who was the best musician he ever had the honor to play with.
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      One of the very few drugs to cause effects in individuals egardless of consumption.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MrFantasy View Post
      Yah most ecstasy pills are little more than 10% actual MDMA and the rest is usually low grade speed and behavioral meds and god knows what. Molli is the street name for pure MDMA, which is the only form of it I would take or recommend taking.

      By the way I knew Fishman did a lot of acid but I didn't know every day. If that's true, kudos to him, but I still say tripping everyday is way too much. Sick drummer though. I think Trey said Fishman when he was asked who was the best musician he ever had the honor to play with.
      Wow 10%?... Fuck Ecstasy. I'll just keep looking till I find pure MDMA..
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      Quote Originally Posted by MrFantasy
      Yah most ecstasy pills are little more than 10% actual MDMA and the rest is usually low grade speed and behavioral meds and god knows what. Molli is the street name for pure MDMA, which is the only form of it I would take or recommend taking.

      By the way I knew Fishman did a lot of acid but I didn't know every day. If that's true, kudos to him, but I still say tripping everyday is way too much. Sick drummer though. I think Trey said Fishman when he was asked who was the best musician he ever had the honor to play with.
      Yeah he's unbelievable. He talks about it towards the end of this interview, pretty good read if you're interested. http://www.phisharchive.com/articles/1996/fishuk.html

      Quote Originally Posted by Bluemangroup
      I was looking around and stumbled on a thread on another website saying LSD is hard to come by because it is intense when it comes to legal matters, and also it is very difficult to create. They made it seem like the Rolls Royce of drugs.
      Yeah the government's really afraid of it. A friend of my roommate's got caught in New York City with 10 hits and got charged with, I shit you not, "conspiracy against the government". Luckily he had a decent lawyer and the judge took pity, but he still had to spend the next 8 months in jail.

      It can be hard to come by too. Its been around here for a while but now that I actually want some it seems to have all disappeared hehe.

      Quote Originally Posted by dajo
      "LSD is a psychedelic drug which occasionally cases psychotic behavior in people who have NOT taken it."
      Haha nice one, I'm gonna have to use that .

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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      Hofmann died at age 107 recently.
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      Quote Originally Posted by I U
      One of the very few drugs to cause effects in individuals egardless of consumption.
      "LSD is a psychedelic drug which occasionally cases psychotic behavior in people who have NOT taken it."

      hehe

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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      By removing the barriers(Ego) between the Subconscious Intuition and the Conscious concrete knowledge, Intuition and knowledge are connected better and work together better.
      I experienced ego death on a very high does trip of mushrooms. probably one of the greatest moments in my life. it totally changed my life and made me a better person, and has pretty much shaped the rest of my life. ego death is not to be taken lightly though, it can be pretty intense, and if your not ready for it, it could be really bad.

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      i had that similar experience after a month of doing acid 3 times a week taking 1 - 5 hits at a time... afterwards i did not know what to think and it was like i pushed a reset button.. now i am much more aware, more profound, more in tune ki wise, and above all happy without relying upon stimuli to promote happiness. although for a while there i was very confused needed a lot of time to reorient. I have no regrets about it but now if i trip i only take 1 - 3 hits of liquid though... which is about the same as 1/2 to 1 dose of good blotter acid.
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      I was looking around and stumbled on a thread on another website saying LSD is hard to come by because it is intense when it comes to legal matters, and also it is very difficult to create. They made it seem like the Rolls Royce of drugs.

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