Thread: F**k the Troops

Originally Posted by Caprisun

The difference I was referring to was how the glorification of war effects the necessity of a force.

What exactly do you mean by that?

Originally Posted by Laughing Man

What exactly do you mean by that?

There can be no complete end to war, which means it will always be necessary to maintain a force (a military.) Our culture and the glorification of war, or protest for that matter, has no effect on this universal truth. Stonedape is arguing that our cultures glorification of war is brainwashing the citizens of the world into believing war is good or necessary, and that we could theoretically end war by not glorifying it. He sees it as deliberate manipulation of the people by the government. He is wrong.

Originally Posted by Caprisun

Stonedape is arguing that our cultures glorification of war is brainwashing the citizens of the world into believing war is good or necessary, and that we could theoretically end war by not glorifying it. He sees it as deliberate manipulation of the people by the government. He is wrong.

No I think he is trying to say that citizens are brainwashed into thinking ALL wars are necessary and good like the Iraq war. War is never 'good' but defense is necessary. Iraq is not necessary nor is it good.

Originally Posted by Laughing Man

No I think he is trying to say that citizens are brainwashed into thinking ALL wars are necessary and good like the Iraq war. War is never 'good' but defense is necessary. Iraq is not necessary nor is it good.

Stoneape has made it clear that he believes militaries should be abolished all together, that means no defensive force. And the necessesity of Iraq is debatable I think. Is it necessary? Possibly, I'm a little torn on certain aspects of that issue. Is it good? We don't know yet, it depends on how it turns out. It has the potential to be great.

Originally Posted by Caprisun

Stoneape has made it clear that he believes militaries should be abolished all together, that means no defensive force. And the necessesity of Iraq is debatable I think. Is it necessary? Possibly, I'm a little torn on certain aspects of that issue. Is it good? We don't know yet, it depends on how it turns out. It has the potential to be great.

Well did you ask him if people could still formulate militias? I would like to see the US military abolished but people could still band together to form militias or corporations who contract out protection services. Privatizing the security market.

Earlier in the thread I said that I was OK with militias. I'm also fine with privatized security.

Originally Posted by Laughing Man

Well did you ask him if people could still formulate militias? I would like to see the US military abolished but people could still band together to form militias or corporations who contract out protection services. Privatizing the security market.

Militias are insufficient as a defensive force for a large nation, especially in the modern world. You need a military. Private military contractors would be no more useful than militias for this purpose.

Originally Posted by Caprisun

Militias are insufficient as a defensive force for a large nation, especially in the modern world. You need a military. Private military contractors would be no more useful than militias for this purpose.

Well that is your impression and I think it outdated.