Based on several of the statements made about souls/spirits here, this really is a semantics deal. What does 'supernatural' mean to you, Dark Matters? You made it clear that you think that something like the soul would have to exist outside of the natural order of things, which lends some insight into what you think a soul has to be in order to be called a soul or spirit. What if, some years from now, we discovered a way to measure it (assuming of course that it exists at all)? If anything exists in the first place it is already a part of the natural order of things. But that's why I'm asking that you explain what you mean when you say things like that.

Quote Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut
We now call the soul 'ego'. We now call spirit 'consciousness'.
Like this for instance. I never thought the spirit/soul were different, and I certainly never would of thought of the soul as the ego, nor of the spirit as the mind. Dannon's claims make it clear that we think differently on the issue, quite contrary to what he claims about us having the same thoughts on it.

Quote Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD
We're not going to get anywhere until science and spirituality start working together.
You speak of them as if they were people who held grudges against one another. Science is a tool we use in order to objectively observe and draw conclusions about everything inside the universe. Spirituality is likewise a tool for the individual as a means of, as Xaq already explained, exploring the self.


Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters
Yes, science provides explanations and information, as you said, but from it we can draw inferences... which affect the way we FEEL about the universe
Sure, but unless your feelings are being analyzed and explained, it's no longer science. It's a feeling, an experience. A pretty picture may instill powerful feelings. Is that science, spiritualism, or neither? You don't have to answer that, I'm only making a point.