Possible MANDATORY Swine flu vaccine in the US/UK/Greece..etc

[ChrissyMaria]

http://www.latimes.com/features/heal...0,978514.story http://www.prisonplanet.com/greece-t...cinations.html http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...1az6wD99GH8580 http://www.santamariatimes.com/artic...s/letter02.txt Six vaccine manufacturers will be producing the 2009-2010 influenza vaccine. And the vaccines will contain the strains of three viruses -- one of them an "H1N1-like" virus identified as A/Brisbane/59/2007. The strain in the seasonal flu preparation is not the same as the so-called swine flu, however and, therefore, is not expected to carry any protection against it. So where the heck is that swine flu vaccine? And, in the meantime, why would you go to the trouble to get yourself vaccinated against a flu vaccine that doesn't protect you from the dreaded swine flu? To get the vaccine to the public even by late October, several labs and companies have been rushing to develop and test formulations since late spring. The results of human trials testing the vaccine's safety and effectiveness at producing an immune response are not expected before early September. In a teleconference earlier this month, the members of the National Biodefense Science Board, a federal advisory board, made clear they think the process should be accelerated. The board's members said vaccine makers should be asked to begin the preliminary steps toward producing vaccine on Aug. 15, before safety and effectiveness data are available. That would have the effect of moving up the date by which vaccine would be available for distribution to mid-September rather than mid-October. But an acceleration of the process could also add an element of uncertainty about the safety of a vaccine that might be mandatory for virtually all schoolchildren. “We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu,” Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting. “We are only waiting for the European Union’s approval to start vaccinating everyone,” a Health Ministry official told Reuters. As we highlighted last week, many batches of the H1N1 vaccine will will contain mercury, a toxin linked with autism and neurological disorders. Cases of autism in the U.S. have increased by 1,500 per cent since 1991, which is when vaccines for children doubled. The swine flu jab will also contain the dangerous ingredient squalene, which has been directly linked with cases of Gulf War Syndrome and a host of other debilitating diseases Squalene “contributed to the cascade of reactions called “Gulf War syndrome. (GIs developed) arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, ALS, Raynaud’s phenomenon, Sjorgren’s syndrome, chronic diarrhea, night sweats and low-grade fever,” according to Micropaleontologist Dr. Viera Scheibner. Health authorities in both the UK and the U.S. have implied that the upcoming mass vaccination program against H1N1 will be mandatory, but no formal decision has been communicated to the public. However, both countries are in the process of purchasing enough doses to cover the entire population. The last time the government embarked on a major vaccine campaign against a new swine flu, thousands filed claims contending they suffered side effects from the shots. This time, the government has already taken steps to head that off. Vaccine makers and federal officials will be immune from lawsuits that result from any new swine flu vaccine, under a document signed by Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, government health officials said Friday. There is no forensic evidence in any of the deaths reported to date that proves scientifically that any single death has been caused by the H1N1 virus. European epidemiologists believe the deaths are opportunistic infections. The people who died often had prior respiratory complications. In the USA alone, nearly 36,000 flu-related deaths are recorded yearly, with no undue panic or alarm. Most are elderly or patients with lung diseases. The symptoms of H1N1 are fever, coughing, headache, runny nose. Do you know anyone with such symptoms? In the more than 15,000 H1N1 cases worldwide, the vast majority recovered within three to seven days, just as in the case of a bad cold. It is beginning to appear the scare is an excuse to justify mandatory vaccination with substances whose harmful side effects are demonstrably worse than any flu they should guard against. I Will not be getting any vaccine, I choose to let my immune system keep me healthy and not some crazy cocktail of chemicals and damaged or dead viruses in the attempts to create antibodies for it. (especially since the vaccine is the wrong type LOL) How about you guys? this thing has barely killed anyone, 800 worldwide deaths is minuscule compared to our 36,000 deaths in the US ALONE every year like clockwork. To force vaccinations to everyone for a joke of a virus is insane. Its also insane how feds and big pharma have immunity, they cant get in trouble or be sued for ill effects of the vaccines... also, why would they order enough vaccines to cover the entire country? and why are these vaccines being RUSHED into production without the proper trial tests on humans!!! I think they want us all to keel over and die, but i would rather die by a bullet than from a terrible side effect ridden syringe.

[Photolysis]

This is quite frankly stupid. You could be forgiven for thinking swine flu is the most lethal virus ever discovered with this media hype. As for accelerating the deployment without adequate safety testing, that is foolish beyond extreme. We have these procedures in place for a reason, and the danger posed does not offset the risk in this case.

[Supernova]

The fact that there will be mandatory vaccinations for a virus that has killed 800 people worldwide yet hyped up to be some terrible plague is suspicious enough as is. The fact that many of the vaccines will contain mercury and squalene...forget about it. This is absolutely rediculous. If this information is true, I will not be gettign this vaccine

[Kromoh]

Oh c'mon people, it's just a fuggin vaccine. Now stop worrying, and go live your life.

[hellohihello]

The vaccine will kill more then the virus itself.. Not to mention all the allergic reactions of those who it hasn't killed.

[Black_Eagle]

That bit about governments having immunity from being held responsible for their actions was the part that really got me. Oh c'mon people, it's just a fuggin vaccine. Now stop worrying, and go live your life. You missed the point.

[Specialis Sapientia]

It is not just a "fugging vaccine" Kromoh, it does in fact contain mercury, it's a mercury solution. Being aware of the health damage of mercury and then weighted agaist the health risk of getting Influenza A H1N1 the option of not getting the vaccine is logical. Furthermore, weighting the fatality rate of this virus as 0.05 % against the risk of negative side-efffects of the vaccine which is untested and rushed. The option to take the risk of dying is more logical than the risk of serious side-effects from the vaccine, which is unnessesary for most people anyway. It is common sense really, common sense is overruled when fear is dominating..

[Kromoh]

Sources for the mercury part, please. Virus vaccines have no reason on Earth to contain mercury. Perhaps if one of you had taken biology or chemistry classes you'd know it. Also, yes, the lethality of the virus is not higher than average, but it's contagiousness is extremely high, which causes more deaths. The only possible problem with a bad vaccine is it not immunizing you or it making you sick, both of which are not really lethal when we're talking about the swine flu.

[Bizarre Jester]

that's screwed up. first of all swine flu isn't a deadly virus. It's the same as any other flu. You take a few days off, take some vitamins, THEN YOU'RE BETTER! These vaccines are more dangerous then the virus itself. At this point, people shouldn't even consider getting it.

[Man of Shred]

that's screwed up. first of all swine flu isn't a deadly virus. It's the same as any other flu. You take a few days off, take some vitamins, THEN YOU'RE BETTER! These vaccines are more dangerous then the virus itself. At this point, people shouldn't even consider getting it. agreed.

[Kuhnada29]

lol @ deathcell...wow did i strike a nerve that easily And where are you getting this information? Because it sounds like scaremongering to me. There is a bill called HR3200, under Subtitle C- National Medical Device Registry... The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or 2 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, 3 life-supporting, or life-sustaining. 4 NOW....The Verichip has been classified as a class II device by the FDA. The bill does not allow the government to install it against your will. What it does do is require that the Verichip, if implanted, be included in the registry that tracks implantable devices. So I was mistaken on one part, I apologize. It can't be required...right now, but gives them permission to track you if you decide to get it...but it's all about desensitizing you to it. I bet their going to try and SELL it to people next, saying how it's good for us, etc, to make everyone WANT to get it. I'm just thinking about the things that it COULD be used for. An entire population marked and tracked like cattle. I really don't like the idea of this. http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text So black_eagle, I'm not scaremongering. When i said that about vaccines and microchips, I was kinda looking into the future and making a wild speculation, but right now is looking like it could be like that. Their just taking baby steps now.

[Grun7y]

NOW....The Verichip has been classified as a class II device by the FDA. The bill does not allow the government to install it against your will. What it does do is require that the Verichip, if implanted, be included in the registry that tracks implantable devices. So I was mistaken on one part, I apologize. It can't be required...right now, but gives them permission to track you if you decide to get it...but it's all about desensitizing you to it. I bet their going to try and SELL it to people next, saying how it's good for us, etc, to make everyone WANT to get it. I'm just thinking about the things that it COULD be used for. An entire population marked and tracked like cattle. I really don't like the idea of this. That's interesting you bring up Verichip. But I think you are wrong in one area. They won't need to sell it to us. Once our economy becomes totally destroyed (largely due to massive inflation, think Weimer Republic all over again), people will look towards the government/political leaders to fix it. The solution? A total reinvention of our monetary system by means of a cashless society. Paying with cash is so yesterday. After all, most people only use their credit cards anyway. And besides, think of all the benefits of a cashless society: no more "dirty" money spreading diseases, no more illegal drug sales (as all sales can be tracked), even custom consumer prices at retail stores (give lower prices to those who buy the most from you). Granted, they won't start off by putting a bunch of chips in people. First, they'll issue a type of debit card and then when an increase in thefts of said cards occur, they'll push the idea for having a chip inside of you to handle financial transactions, for your own safety of course.

[Kuhnada29]

I agree Grun7y that that's how they want to play it. Regardless if all this is orchestrated, I don't like the idea of implanted computer chips inside people. Imagine the possibilities or things you could do, half-human/half machine, death, sickness, torture, most important slavery, all with the touch of a button if you disobey. Implanted microchips is NOT a good idea...no matter how well you try to make it seem. History repeats itself remember. It's complete control over you. You will become their property. Forget about the religious implications of it( I'm not religious by the way), but think about, you could be at the wrong place, at the wrong time, and be labeled as a terrorist. Among other things.

[DeathCell]

lol @ deathcell...wow did i strike a nerve that easily No I'm just sick of seeing people that are sick of the normal media relying on even larger crackpots... Like the weirdo with the "new world order" signature.. It's not very secretive if everyone online knows.... You think you know whats going on but you obviously don't. We all know money makes the world go round, and the people with the money have the power.. It's not a conspiracy, why are people so desperate to write fiction into reality when reality is so damn interesting and corrupt as it is? Instead of being brainwashed by the normal media, you are brainwashed by some internet nerds...

[Hercuflea]

http://www.infowars.com/grim-reaper-...t-in-florida/# OH MY GOSH LOL! This table was in a Walgreens in Florida how appropriate

[DeathCell]

Go outside and get some sun.

[ChrissyMaria]

Go outside and get some sun. says the man who spends hours on dv debating us. (btw i get plenty of sun myself, im very tan)

[DeathCell]

Hours? More like minutes. You must think it takes a long time for me to type. You are incorrect.

[Kuhnada29]

I was in the car on the way to a job interview this morning, on the radio they were saying that swine flu vaccinations were in and that it's "prioritized" for "healthcare workers" and I think the elderly? I'm not sure about the elderly, I didn't quite catch the last part. I don't know if prioritized means mandatory or recommended.