Thread: Internet use contributes to global warming.

We should be attributing global warming impact to things that actually produce the gas IMO.

Guess I'm clean, all my power is hydro-electric. The rest of you... shame on you .

But yeah, it's the production of electricity and manufacturing of a product that can release greenhouse gases. By this article's logic, drinking a cup of coffee or playing the guitar contributes to global warming.

There is nothing left for you to do at this moment but turn off your computer.

Only if you do it first. I promise I'll turn mine off afterwards.

My power is hydro too. In a couple of months, all my power will be solar and carbon-neutral corn.

I would say that for the most part, the responsibility for this falls on the owners of the servers that host websites, since that is where the bulk of the power consumption associated with internet activity takes place.

Originally Posted by Invader

Only if you do it first. I promise I'll turn mine off afterwards.

But I'm not going to. I don't think that excuse is going to win you any points with environmentalists.

I'm sorry, environment.
But my internet is more important.

I'm not sure what this thread is supposed to be doing other than stating the utterly bloody obvious..?

Originally Posted by Xei

I'm not sure what this thread is supposed to be doing other than stating the utterly bloody obvious..?

If it is, then isn't that what your post is doing?

No my post was asking a question. :l

This is in ED so I'm guessing by the ostensible blandness it has some kind of ironic subtext but I didn't really get it.

Is it that environmentalists are being hypocritical by talking on internet forums or something?

Originally Posted by Xei

No my post was asking a question. :l

You made a statement concerning utter obviousness.

Originally Posted by Xei

No This is in ED so I'm guessing by the ostensible blandness it has some kind of ironic subtext but I didn't really get it.

Is it that environmentalists are being hypocritical by talking on internet forums or something?

Everybody is hypocritical, in one way or another.

No offense, but I find it a little petty, if you really wanted to make that point.
Does it make you feel better, if you know that even an environmentalist is
hurting the environment, albeit less? I think it's just a pretty weak argument,
since by that logic you can just start telling people to 'kill themselves', whenever
someone wants to improve their way of life or wants to inform the general
public about important issues.

Edit:
Also, not every environmentalist is a preaching zealot.

Yea you can't blame everything that runs on power. Have to go to the source of the problem. We could just all switch to nuclear power, and then we would be free to use computers as much as we want.

Originally Posted by dajo

Everybody is hypocritical, in one way or another.

No offense, but I find it a little petty, if you really wanted to make that point.
Does it make you feel better, if you know that even an environmentalist is
hurting the environment, albeit less? I think it's just a pretty weak argument,
since by that logic you can just start telling people to 'kill themselves', whenever
someone wants to improve their way of life or wants to inform the general
public about important issues.

Edit:
Also, not every environmentalist is a preaching zealot.

Lighten up. The fact that people post on the internet to bitch about global warming is hilarious. It's not as funny as Al Gore taking a private jet to a global warming conference or Barbara Streisand flying to a city and making a statement by not riding in a car while she is there, but it is still really funny.

Alright, sorry about that.
Didn't mean to come off as an ass.

It is a little ironic, you are right about that.
And I don't think very highly of Al Gore and all those
'green' people, who take a plane to the grocery store.

You win the prize. My ability to imply that you are retarded shows that I am extremely intelligent and capable of deep discussion.

What percentage of worldwide fossil fuel consumption do you seriously think is consumed due to enviornmentalists on discussion boards?

Is there any reason to draw attention to it other than spite?

The internet is by leagues the most effective way to disseminate information throughout the world, so seeing as these people are trying to change the whole energy habits of industrialised society it's patently justified.

Out of interest, how much national power consumption is actually used by the internet?

Needless to say the internet isn't even inherently environmentally harmful, it just depends on who provides the energy to power the servers, which are largely in America and are hence largely powered by unsustainable means. Ironically if the protesters were listened to the internet wouldn't be a problem in the first place.

Originally Posted by Xei

What percentage of worldwide fossil fuel consumption do you seriously think is consumed due to enviornmentalists on discussion boards?

Is there any reason to draw attention to it other than spite?

The internet is by leagues the most effective way to disseminate information throughout the world, so seeing as these people are trying to change the whole energy habits of industrialised society it's patently justified.

Out of interest, how much national power consumption is actually used by the internet?

Needless to say the internet isn't even inherently environmentally harmful, it just depends on who provides the energy to power the servers, which are largely in America and are hence largely powered by unsustainable means. Ironically if the protesters were listened to the internet wouldn't be a problem in the first place.

You apparently didn't read the article, and you often remind me of this guy.



Have a beer or something.

Originally Posted by dajo

Alright, sorry about that.
Didn't mean to come off as an ass.

It is a little ironic, you are right about that.
And I don't think very highly of Al Gore and all those
'green' people, who take a plane to the grocery store.

Cool beans. You usually act like you have a sense of humor. But Xei on the other hand...

Nah I skimmed it. Turns out they do have percentages there which is cool.

Everything I said in my post is unchanged. Thanks for the continuing flow of funny pictures though.

The guy at the end of the article makes a good point: the internet has simply replaced other means of spreading information. Doing it via television or sending leaflets or driving round the country is actually much worse for the environment.

Originally Posted by Xei

Doing it via television or sending leaflets or driving round the country is actually much worse for the environment.

It's done that way too, which adds to the comedy. Skywriting would be the funniest way, though.

So how on Earth do you suggest people with concerns for the environment could ever communicate their concerns to the general public?

Originally Posted by Xei

So how on Earth do you suggest people with concerns for the environment could ever communicate their concerns to the general public?

They're just going to have to do it in person to avoid being laughed at. Well, actually, they'll be laughed at any way. Keep in mind that I think man made global warming is a crock of shit. From my perspective, the article I posted just takes global warming alarmist reasoning and points out the natural conclusion.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

It's done that way too, which adds to the comedy. Skywriting would be the funniest way, though.

Tire fire writing?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

You apparently didn't read the article, and you often remind me of this guy.



Have a beer or something.



Cool beans. You usually act like you have a sense of humor. But Xei on the other hand...

El Duce tells you to listen to what I say do not question me!

LOL...

my internet is not making the earth warm, it is however making my room warmer.

Even if I was a hippie living in a house of mud, growing my own food, pooping in a hole, bathing in a river - I still want internet

It is in my opinion the most important and most valuable technology we have. It's not the end of the world if we don't have cars. Walk. Ride a bike. It's would only be the end of big industry. It's not the end of the world if even the big pharmaceutical industry fall apart. Science is showing us that medicines are actually killing people. And that a healthy balanced diet is and always will be the best medicine.

But without the internet? Were ignorant of the world. Were ignorant of each other. Were ignorant that there are alternatives to life. The internet has offered us the greatest chance of world peace by helping us realize we are one global community. And by spreading information freely.

And the spreading of information is needed so that people can learn the alternatives to life

The unsustainable sources of energy (like coal plants) should be to blame, not regular people. We should be actively finding better, alternative sources of energy for many, many reasons, one of them especially being the environment. The internet is just one of the things we use daily that require energy from unsustainable resources we've been clinging on to, and is rather irrelevant to the real underlying problem.