Thread: Split Marijuana Discussion

Originally Posted by Alexander1656

I have the same opinion about using it, as loaf. I think that drugs are bad for you. I dont believe they should be used in doing something like dreaming.

Don't generalize marijuana as just another 'drug'. It is unlike any other drug man has ever laid his hands on in the respect that you can use it completely unsynthesized (You're smoking a plant that grows out of the ground itself rather than chemicals mixed in a laboratory). Drugs ARE bad for you, but I do not consider pot a drug, because it is A. Not physically addictive (It's about as addictive as a good video game, there are no actual physical properties in pot that make it in any way physically addictive, meaning it's not like nicotene which actually physically addicts you. Mental addiction can be anything, you can be mentally addicted to masturbation for fuck's sake), and B. It does absolutely nothing to harm you, besides making you unmotivated due to your own actions. Lung cancer and pot are completely unassociated, and it's also been found that cigarette smokers who ALSO smoke weed LIVE LONGER. There are no known deaths as a result of smoking pot, and there is no possible way to overdose. (Maybe possible, but you'd have to smoke about 10 times your body weight).

So please, don't generalize it as just another 'drug' because it is certainly, absolutely, not. The 'gateway drug' argument is valid, but only as a result of pot prohibition. If pot were legal, you wouldn't be buying it from people who also sell other drugs and that's exactly what makes it a gateway drug. Again, there is no property of weed that could ever encourage you to want a better high, or to try a different drug, the only way it could feasibly be a gateway drug is because of the fact that is is illegal. Alcohol could be just as easily considered a gateway drug if it were illegal and you were buying it from people with other actual drugs.

I had the misconception about pot when I was growing up, and so did everyone else. We all thought it was evil shit at one point, it's just a matter of actually trying it for yourself and realizing how simple and awesome weed is. (Kind of like being afraid of an intimidating waterslide as a kid and then finally getting convinced to go on it, and completely disproving previous fears and uncertainty about the slide itself.) Booze is legal, alcohol is far more of a drug than THC (weed) will ever be. It's far, far more harmful to you than any weed will ever be - yet it's legal, smart world right?

Food for thought, please consider my words without dismissing them as misinformation as it is quality valid information, not an opinion.

Originally Posted by Sony86

Don't generalize marijuana as just another 'drug'. It is unlike any other drug man has ever laid his hands on in the respect that you can use it completely unsynthesized (You're smoking a plant that grows out of the ground itself rather than chemicals mixed in a laboratory). Drugs ARE bad for you, but I do not consider pot a drug, because it is A. Not physically addictive (It's about as addictive as a good video game, there are no actual physical properties in pot that make it in any way physically addictive, meaning it's not like nicotene which actually physically addicts you. Mental addiction can be anything, you can be mentally addicted to masturbation for fuck's sake), and B. It does absolutely nothing to harm you, besides making you unmotivated due to your own actions. Lung cancer and pot are completely unassociated, and it's also been found that cigarette smokers who ALSO smoke weed LIVE LONGER. There are no known deaths as a result of smoking pot, and there is no possible way to overdose. (Maybe possible, but you'd have to smoke about 10 times your body weight).

So please, don't generalize it as just another 'drug' because it is certainly, absolutely, not. The 'gateway drug' argument is valid, but only as a result of pot prohibition. If pot were legal, you wouldn't be buying it from people who also sell other drugs and that's exactly what makes it a gateway drug. Again, there is no property of weed that could ever encourage you to want a better high, or to try a different drug, the only way it could feasibly be a gateway drug is because of the fact that is is illegal. Alcohol could be just as easily considered a gateway drug if it were illegal and you were buying it from people with other actual drugs.

I had the misconception about pot when I was growing up, and so did everyone else. We all thought it was evil shit at one point, it's just a matter of actually trying it for yourself and realizing how simple and awesome weed is. (Kind of like being afraid of an intimidating waterslide as a kid and then finally getting convinced to go on it, and completely disproving previous fears and uncertainty about the slide itself.) Booze is legal, alcohol is far more of a drug than THC (weed) will ever be. It's far, far more harmful to you than any weed will ever be - yet it's legal, smart world right?

Food for thought, please consider my words without dismissing them as misinformation as it is quality valid information, not an opinion.

Ok, but, Lucid dreaming is something that should be axssesable by everyone. It is not ment to be something assoated with drugs. Also, I really would nver break the law(Besudes downloading a few iligle music

Originally Posted by Alexander1656

Look I know people who have gotten really sick from pot! Also when your "High" you can hurt your self a lot. I would never try pot. EVER

Wow, okay? Way to completely ignore everything I said.

Originally Posted by Sony86

Don't generalize marijuana as just another 'drug'. It is unlike any other drug man has ever laid his hands on in the respect that you can use it completely unsynthesized (You're smoking a plant that grows out of the ground itself rather than chemicals mixed in a laboratory). Drugs ARE bad for you, but I do not consider pot a drug, because it is A. Not physically addictive (It's about as addictive as a good video game, there are no actual physical properties in pot that make it in any way physically addictive, meaning it's not like nicotene which actually physically addicts you. Mental addiction can be anything, you can be mentally addicted to masturbation for fuck's sake), and B. It does absolutely nothing to harm you, besides making you unmotivated due to your own actions. Lung cancer and pot are completely unassociated, and it's also been found that cigarette smokers who ALSO smoke weed LIVE LONGER. There are no known deaths as a result of smoking pot, and there is no possible way to overdose. (Maybe possible, but you'd have to smoke about 10 times your body weight).

So please, don't generalize it as just another 'drug' because it is certainly, absolutely, not. The 'gateway drug' argument is valid, but only as a result of pot prohibition. If pot were legal, you wouldn't be buying it from people who also sell other drugs and that's exactly what makes it a gateway drug. Again, there is no property of weed that could ever encourage you to want a better high, or to try a different drug, the only way it could feasibly be a gateway drug is because of the fact that is is illegal. Alcohol could be just as easily considered a gateway drug if it were illegal and you were buying it from people with other actual drugs.

I had the misconception about pot when I was growing up, and so did everyone else. We all thought it was evil shit at one point, it's just a matter of actually trying it for yourself and realizing how simple and awesome weed is. (Kind of like being afraid of an intimidating waterslide as a kid and then finally getting convinced to go on it, and completely disproving previous fears and uncertainty about the slide itself.) Booze is legal, alcohol is far more of a drug than THC (weed) will ever be. It's far, far more harmful to you than any weed will ever be - yet it's legal, smart world right?

Food for thought, please consider my words without dismissing them as misinformation as it is quality valid information, not an opinion.

Originally Posted by Sony86

Wow, okay? Way to completely ignore everything I said.

That's how i used to look at pot.. like something bad. then i gave it a try..& my whole life made sense..

Originally Posted by inthemirror92

That's how i used to look at pot.. like something bad. then i gave it a try..& my whole life made sense..

Exactly. Like epiphany city once you try it for the first time.

Originally Posted by Alexander1656

Ok, but, Lucid dreaming is something that should be axssesable by everyone. It is not ment to be something assoated with drugs. Also, I really would nver break the law(Besudes downloading a few iligle music

That's a much more intelligent response and I thank you. I agree with you man, I don't think weed is at all nessesary for lucid dreaming as it should be mastered without any drugs just like life ultimately should. And I do not break the law by smoking weed as I have a legitimate medical marijuana lisensce.

Originally Posted by Alexander1656

Ok, but, Lucid dreaming is something that should be axssesable by everyone. It is not ment to be something assoated with drugs. Also, I really would nver break the law(Besudes downloading a few iligle music

Lucid dreaming isn't meant to be anything, its a function of life, and one of the most amazing ones I've come across.

I've also read in a few places that smoking pot and using psychedelic drugs increases a persons chances of discovering/having lucid dreams. This being because smoking pot opens up some kinds of neuro-somatic pathways and makes a person used to higher states of consciousness. I honestly don't understand the science behind it, but it makes sense at least insofar as smoking pot produces similar effects to meditation and breathing exercises. I'll try to clear this post up tomorrow if I have time, but it's late.

Originally Posted by stonedape

Lucid dreaming isn't meant to be anything, its a function of life, and one of the most amazing ones I've come across.

I've also read in a few places that smoking pot and using psychedelic drugs increases a persons chances of discovering/having lucid dreams. This being because smoking pot opens up some kinds of neuro-somatic pathways and makes a person used to higher states of consciousness. I honestly don't understand the science behind it, but it makes sense at least insofar as smoking pot produces similar effects to meditation and breathing exercises. I'll try to clear this post up tomorrow if I have time, but it's late.

Hell yeah man I completely agree with you and I know exactly what you're talking about. It totally does put you in a higher state of consciousness.

I think it is absolutely hilarious that the original poster left due to lack of argument. Face it, pot is acceptable now.

Originally Posted by Alexander1656

Read the heath risks again. You can get hurt. Also, alcohol isNOT addictive if you have a little bit of it. Some wine here and there, will not hurt you. Some whiskey everywhere will hurt you! As for pot, it hurts the people around you through second hand smoke. I have Asthma thanks to smokers! They are careless and not only causing them self harm but the people around them!

Alcohol can be addictive if you have a little bit. You are 12, stop arguing about stuff you have no knowledge about. You are OBVIOUSLY still under the influence of propaganda.

Oh.. and you can't get "second hand smoke" from inhaling used pot. You would only get high. And it's called a Contact High, not second hand smoke ahahaha...

Originally Posted by Motumz

I think it is absolutely hilarious that the original poster left due to lack of argument. Face it, pot is acceptable now.




Alcohol can be addictive if you have a little bit. You are 12, stop arguing about stuff you have no knowledge about. You are OBVIOUSLY still under the influence of propaganda.

Oh.. and you can't get "second hand smoke" from inhaling used pot. You would only get high. And it's called a Contact High, not second hand smoke ahahaha...

I know, right? It's so evident that some people have no idea what they're talking about and it's all too ironic.

Originally Posted by Sony86

I know, right? It's so evident that some people have no idea what they're talking about and it's all too ironic.

Exactly. It's just sad that these lost, and lied to people can still make a shitty difference. So, marijuana is still illegal.

But not for long..

Originally Posted by Motumz

I think it is absolutely hilarious that the original poster left due to lack of argument. Face it, pot is acceptable now.




Alcohol can be addictive if you have a little bit. You are 12, stop arguing about stuff you have no knowledge about. You are OBVIOUSLY still under the influence of propaganda.

Oh.. and you can't get "second hand smoke" from inhaling used pot. You would only get high. And it's called a Contact High, not second hand smoke ahahaha...

I got this at a metallica concert. T'was interesting.

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk

I got this at a metallica concert. T'was interesting.

Try actually smoking it, it's a hell of a lot more interesting.

Originally Posted by Sony86

Don't generalize marijuana as just another 'drug'. It is unlike any other drug man has ever laid his hands on in the respect that you can use it completely unsynthesized (You're smoking a plant that grows out of the ground itself rather than chemicals mixed in a laboratory). Drugs ARE bad for you, but I do not consider pot a drug, because it is A. Not physically addictive (It's about as addictive as a good video game, there are no actual physical properties in pot that make it in any way physically addictive, meaning it's not like nicotene which actually physically addicts you. Mental addiction can be anything, you can be mentally addicted to masturbation for fuck's sake), and B. It does absolutely nothing to harm you, besides making you unmotivated due to your own actions. Lung cancer and pot are completely unassociated, and it's also been found that cigarette smokers who ALSO smoke weed LIVE LONGER. There are no known deaths as a result of smoking pot, and there is no possible way to overdose. (Maybe possible, but you'd have to smoke about 10 times your body weight).

So please, don't generalize it as just another 'drug' because it is certainly, absolutely, not. The 'gateway drug' argument is valid, but only as a result of pot prohibition. If pot were legal, you wouldn't be buying it from people who also sell other drugs and that's exactly what makes it a gateway drug. Again, there is no property of weed that could ever encourage you to want a better high, or to try a different drug, the only way it could feasibly be a gateway drug is because of the fact that is is illegal. Alcohol could be just as easily considered a gateway drug if it were illegal and you were buying it from people with other actual drugs.

I had the misconception about pot when I was growing up, and so did everyone else. We all thought it was evil shit at one point, it's just a matter of actually trying it for yourself and realizing how simple and awesome weed is. (Kind of like being afraid of an intimidating waterslide as a kid and then finally getting convinced to go on it, and completely disproving previous fears and uncertainty about the slide itself.) Booze is legal, alcohol is far more of a drug than THC (weed) will ever be. It's far, far more harmful to you than any weed will ever be - yet it's legal, smart world right?

Food for thought, please consider my words without dismissing them as misinformation as it is quality valid information, not an opinion.

A drug, broadly speaking, is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function. [source: wikipedia]
Marijuana is a substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function.
Therefore, marijuana is a drug.

I think what you're actually trying to say is to not generalize marijuana as a drug with negative physical effects.