Barium Clouds... a cause for concern?

**Zhaylin** · 05-17-2010 09:13 PM

My hubby is paranoid about these things. For the last year or so, our skies (mid- WV) are filled with barium clouds.
After hearing him ranting about them for the last several months, I decided to look it up myself.
But I'm not intelligent (or informed ?) enough to really make sense of it all.

http://www.bariumblues.com/emr1.htm

Is it more unfounded conspiracy theories, or is there more to it?

**LRT** · 05-17-2010 09:22 PM

Trust me, there is no science behind this. "Ionosphere heaters" would require almost as much, if not more, energy than the entire US power grid.

**Spartiate** · 05-17-2010 09:37 PM

I'm a pilot, so this chemtrail conspiracy stuff is pretty funny to me. All it takes is a decent understanding in meteorology to debunk it.

I've never heard of these "barium clouds", but your skies are not full of them. Next time you think you see them take a picture and I'll tell you what they really are.

Then again, maybe I'm in on it

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**Odd_Nonposter** · 05-17-2010 09:45 PM

Errr... no. How does this guy know that these "barium clouds" are being manipulated by extraterrestrial electromagnetic radiation?

Sounds like some tinfoil-hat guy that looked up at the clouds and panicked.

**Invader** · 05-17-2010 09:53 PM

I don't think Barium occurs in its pure form... Ever. And I'm pretty sure that all Barium compounds are solid to begin with. Not an easy thing to make clouds out of. =|

**starzandstripes** · 05-17-2010 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Spartiate

I'm a pilot, so this chemtrail conspiracy stuff is pretty funny to me. All it takes is a decent understanding in meteorology to debunk it.

I've never heard of these "barium clouds", but your skies are not full of them. Next time you think you see them take a picture and I'll tell you what they really are.

Then again, maybe I'm in on it

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Funny you say this because some of the leading people behind the chemtrails issue are in fact metoerologist and pilots. Many of which whom after studying it, concluded there is something to it. I dont have anywhere near enough knowledge to know or understand the specifics of it, and I won't form any opinion on it until or unless I know more. Interestingly John Coleman did not dismiss it when asked about it.

**Spartiate** · 05-17-2010 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by starzandstripes

Funny you say this because some of the leading people behind the chemtrails issue are in fact metoerologist and pilots.

Such as? I wanna know who I shouldn't get in a plane with or get a weather briefing from...

As I said, with decent knowledge of meteorology/aviation this is easy to debunk. If you have any suspicions that you want addressed then ask and I will try to inform you.

**Zhaylin** · 05-17-2010 11:18 PM

Thanks for all of the replies. I am still uncertain.
To make matters worse, I posted the wrong link. HARP technology is WAYYYYY over my head and I have no hope of ever grasping it.
I was thinking more about chem-trails being unhealthy because of ___ ___ ???

Here's the link:
http://www.bariumblues.com/

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Barium: The Poison No One Talks About Barium is just as dangerous as arsenic, mercury and lead and it shows up regularly in public water supplies.

Exposure to small amounts of barium, dissolved in water, may cause a person to experience these problems:
1. Breathing difficulties
2. Increased blood pressure
3. Heart rhythm changes
4. Stomach irritation
5. Muscle weakness
6. Alterations in nerve reflexes
7. Damage to your brain, liver, kidney and heart

Barium Tests are Positive -- Clifford Carnicom

Barium sprayed in the atmosphere falls to earth and gets in water supplies."

**Spartiate** · 05-17-2010 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Zhaylin

Thanks for all of the replies. I am still uncertain.
To make matters worse, I posted the wrong link. HARP technology is WAYYYYY over my head and I have no hope of ever grasping it.
I was thinking more about chem-trails being unhealthy because of ___ ___ ???

Here's the link:
http://www.bariumblues.com/

"

Barium: The Poison No One Talks About Barium is just as dangerous as arsenic, mercury and lead and it shows up regularly in public water supplies.

Exposure to small amounts of barium, dissolved in water, may cause a person to experience these problems:
1. Breathing difficulties
2. Increased blood pressure
3. Heart rhythm changes
4. Stomach irritation
5. Muscle weakness
6. Alterations in nerve reflexes
7. Damage to your brain, liver, kidney and heart

Barium Tests are Positive -- Clifford Carnicom

Barium sprayed in the atmosphere falls to earth and gets in water supplies."

Barium is bad but nobody is spraying it... You're not gonna get a ton of scientific evidence from a website run by a tin-foil hat dude.

And as for HAARP, it's a collection of projects to study the upper atmosphere and radio waves. The main project uses a powerful radio transmitter to create and measure minute alterations in the ionosphere in an effort to understand it better. The ionosphere is a part of the atmosphere near the edge of space that is electrically charged because of the Sun's radiation. It's important because it basically affects all radio signals on the planet. We're able to bounce radio signals off of the ionosphere to reach anywhere on the planet, otherwise radio signals would only travel in straight lines and would have limited range do to the curvature of the Earth.

**Forsaken** · 05-18-2010 01:43 AM

Lol.. that site is so much BS. Those clouds he shows are fairly high altitude clouds that are being manipulated by the jet stream, not by HAARP. The ionosphere is so much higher than those clouds, it's not even funny. Also, those clouds are obviously water vapor, which cannot exist in the ionosphere. Even besides that, the power emitted by HAARP is so trivial compared to power constantly streaming through the ionosphere from the solar wind that it can be likened to a flashlight out in the sunshine.