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      30 days DILD and MILD experiment.

      I know that threads like this exist all over the DV, but I hope you won't mind another one. ;D

      Listen to this while reading the post, because it will give you right environment.



      Everything is set up, let's start.

      In my very short way (about 1 month) to become regular LDer I've experienced few WILDs. They were awesome. And the feeling you get when entering a dream is unexplainable. Although it's amazing I want to DILD or MILD more. I like the idea of realising that you are dreaming while you ARE dreaming. I want to feel that and I will, but as everyone knows motivation is very important and I need to get it maxed. That's the reason I am creating this thread in the first place. Now, let's get to the part where I will explain what I am going to do.

      Starting today I will regularly do this:

      1. First and most important, I will write my dreams down in my Dream Journal and then I will draw a map. (I've been doing this for a month already and I have very good recall now)

      2. I just got a book (in my language) about Lucid Dreaming and there were a lot of techniques for DILD. It's mostly about being aware of your surroundings all the time and translated from my language it would be "Stalking" (believe me, no use googling).I just noticed new thread by KingYoshi and I believe that techniques I am talking about are called ADA in english. It's such a coincidence that he posted this one day after I had read a book. So, back to the subject. I will be doing these ADA techniques described in my book. There are exercises for 10 weeks and after that time you should be aware like a ninja. I will translate and post them if they will show any results and believe me, they will.

      3. During my daily ADA training I will do 'FULLY AWARE Reality Checks" and mantras. I will smell, listen to my surroundings and explore everything around me before performing them. I won't count on Dream Signs, because I don't really have any. I have over 100 dreams and no DS, strange, huh? Well, I dream a lot of my female friends (lol), but it's not like when I am close to my friend I will perform RC immediately. (Freaky)

      4. Now, before going to sleep I will tell myself that I will notice myself awake after every dream and that I will write it down. (It works for me about 80%, when I try to do it)

      5. After my like 2nd or 3rd awaking at night (when it's about 4 - 6 hours after going to sleep) I will wake up and go to take a pee. After that I will lie down in my bed relaxing telling myself that I will realise I am dreaming, I will perform reality check, I will be aware of my surroundings. Than I will visualise what would have happened if I realised I am dreaming in the dream I had before waking up (if I remember it. If not, I will take other dream scene). Than some more mantras to fall asleep when thinking about Lucid Dreaming.

      6. Update this thread daily. And since last week I had few unbelievable non-lucid dreams I will start DJ when I will have next one.

      So, main goales after 30 days:

      * Becoming A LOT MORE aware of my surroundings during the day. I won't become a pro, but I won't be a beginner.

      * Have at least 1 - 3 Lucid Dreams per week. Even more if possible. It doesn't matter which technique will provide results.

      * Have my dream recall mastered.

      * Have a lot of people interested in my thread.
      Last edited by Purebred; 03-31-2011 at 10:59 AM.
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      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      OK, I like this thread. I am at the same level as you, 1 month approx., no dream signs, so I will silently be following along and taking inspiration
      I look forward to the translation of your ADA techniques, whenever you can.
      Good luck!

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      thanks for support. 1 month and 9 LDs? nice. What do you use?
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      Well, I just commited myself to recall dreams after each and every wake-up... I MILD almost exclusively and being on a long trip also helped by lowering my stress. I meditate daily, and do awareness and reality checks.

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      Yes, I think lucid dreaming is more about awareness than techniques. Not that techniques are not important, but awareness is the base layer for your techniques to stick upon and become effective. It would be like knowing how to draw a painting having no hands. I'm also trying to expand it either with meditation and during the day just by being and thinking less. I've always been thinking way too much, just now that I try to be present I realise how many times I find myself daydreaming and even my whole life has been dreamlike in a way.

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      Alright. Late update, because I decided to start on mounday for easy day counting. ;D

      DAY 1!

      Day: I completed first week of my awareness program. I am now always aware when I am typing something to someone. Especially on my mobile phone. It's very easy to remember to check your reality. Let's go to week 2!!!

      Evening: I decided that evenings should have a lot of focusing on lucid dreaming. So, that's what I did. Read a lot about LD, OBE, etc. And I tried to fall asleep while thinking only about my mantras.

      Night: I woke up 3 times. I recall 3 dreams perfectly. All of the mentioned 3 times I woke up I applied MILD techniques, but no LD for me. -.-

      Alright. Let's look forward to Day 2!
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      Awesome! Nice start... Keep it up!

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      Day 2!

      Day: same as always.

      Night. I recall 3 dreams (like always). Non of them were Lucid. O noticed my mistake. I don't fall asleep thinking about gaining lucidity. My mind wonders away.
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      Day 3!

      Day: My awareness is getting better. I notice many things that I haven't noticed before. Minus of it is that daydreaming is hard now.

      Night: OMG! I had one of the strangest dreams ever. I dreamt about going to sleep and trying to achiee lucidity. I fell asleep in a dream and I had regular dream. It was dream within a dream. I woke up 2 times. One, in my dream, and the other one (after almost getting Lucid) in real life.

      And I find it hard to fall asleep when focusing my mind of something. I experienced huge sleep lose.

      QUESTION!

      Can I think a lot about LDing (mantras, visualization) when woke up at night, but after some time let my mind wonder and fall asleep normaly?
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      Quote Originally Posted by Purebred View Post
      Can I think a lot about LDing (mantras, visualization) when woke up at night, but after some time let my mind wonder and fall asleep normaly?
      It doesn't have to be that your last thought is about LD, just stick that intention firmly into your mind, with mantras and visualization. Hopefully after that you 'll have an LD.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ichorid View Post
      It doesn't have to be that your last thought is about LD, just stick that intention firmly into your mind, with mantras and visualization. Hopefully after that you 'll have an LD.
      What exactly do you do to have LD?
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      Quote Originally Posted by Purebred View Post
      What exactly do you do to have LD?
      Before I go to sleep I write in my day journal, then meditate for 5 mins. This helps me to relax. Then, I think about my mantra (and visualise): "I will wake up after every dream and remember it" and fall asleep. After my first wake-up (4-5 hours after) and during the next ones I write down my dreams and think about my other mantra: "The next time I'm dreaming, I will realise I'm dreaming". It doesn't always work of course, but I still wake up regularly and write down my dreams. This is a typical MILD method.
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      Day 4!

      Day: I am getting more and more aware. I am now always aware when I wite text messages, eat or drink something and I am always aware in what kind of position I am sitting/standing.

      Night: I got a new phone and it's clock is set 1 hour earlier than it should be. And I was lazy to fix it and guess what. I set my alarm clock at 5 o'clock, but It accualy was 6 o'clock. I woke up, listened for some binaural beats, fell asleep for few minutes and than I was woken up... School... Believe how shocked i was. ;D I recalled 3 dreams.

      Some notes about what I've experienced these days.

      * I know that everyone uses different, idividual techniques to get Lucid Dreams. I think that I am very close to my own method of getting regular LD's. I just feel it.

      *My dream recall got crazy. Let me copy post I made somewhere.
      I don't know if it's because of the cartography or not, but I am experiencing the best time I've ever had. I suddenly remember dream I had. let me explain. Regularly, I remember 3 dreams per night, but now I remember at least 5, because of the sudden "vision" I get during the day. For example, yesterday I was walking past tennis court, when I remembered the dream I had about tennis the other night. Same thing happened today and day before yesterday. It's powerful and it keeps getting better.
      After writing this it happened me many more times.

      And QUESTION

      I've read a lot about meditation combined with LDing. I used to meditate, but I stopped. So. What is the best time to meditate? Should I meditate before going to sleep? Or after WBTB?
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      The night I had my first LD I did some meditation before going to sleep, but I think you can choose any moment of the day that feels confortable for you. Through Meditation you can learn how to become aware of yourself and can really be helpful to help you even when you're outside living your regular life.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Purebred View Post
      I've read a lot about meditation combined with LDing. I used to meditate, but I stopped. So. What is the best time to meditate? Should I meditate before going to sleep? Or after WBTB?
      I've always found that meditation works perfectly just before bed, it makes you more relaxed and puts the stressful day behind you. During WBTB's you are already relaxed because of the sleep, so you won't need it much It also works before wild-napping during the day.
      Last edited by Ichorid; 04-07-2011 at 02:20 PM. Reason: typos
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      Thanks for your answers.

      Day 5!

      Day: Just awesome. Nothing more to say.

      Night: 3 dreams recalled. After realising I am dreaming I woke up immediately. I realised after seeing my reflection at the mirror.

      P.S. I will be adding meditation and binaural beats to my experiment. ;D
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      You should make it a 2 month thing, considering your book has you doing things for about 10 weeks.

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      I like this a lot better than the 90 day ones. I think that's too long. I might give this a try but I am terrible with sticking with it and doing it everyday. ADA is the most important thing I believe. When I did it before I went to bed, I would have a lot of dreams about myself observing my surrounding. It would consist of me standing in an open area and just looking at everything. So I believe ADA transfers into your dreams. Its very crucial to become a good LDer in my perspective.
      Every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      You should make it a 2 month thing, considering your book has you doing things for about 10 weeks.
      I am starting to think that 2 months would be better. Well, I can consider that after seeing results. ;D

      I like this a lot better than the 90 day ones. I think that's too long. I might give this a try but I am terrible with sticking with it and doing it everyday. ADA is the most important thing I believe. When I did it before I went to bed, I would have a lot of dreams about myself observing my surrounding. It would consist of me standing in an open area and just looking at everything. So I believe ADA transfers into your dreams. Its very crucial to become a good LDer in my perspective.
      Yes, ADA is very good thing. And it will help not only to become Lucid, but to make your real life better. Join me. ;D Let's do this together.
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      I'm officially joining this if thats ok? I read your post on awareness training pure, I'm starting today.
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      Alright. Of course alright. Yahoo!!!! People joining!!!! ;D
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      Day 6!

      I took a break at the weekend, because you can't Lucid Dream when you are drunk. ;D

      Day: usuall.

      Night: I meditated before going to bed and woke up at 5 o'clock in the morning. Wrote my dreams down, mantred (nice verb), visualizated (another one) and fell asleep. No LD, but my dream was so real that after waking up I didn't understand if it was dream or real life scene.
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      Day 7!

      Finally. This night has showed me some results. Even thou I overslept and didn't do anything during the night I am pretty sure I had lucid dream. The only problem is... that I can't remember it. I was woken up very fast (Let's say that I was late) and it killed my dream recall. How do I know that I had LD? Because of the feeling. I felt the same way as I feel after having nice LD.
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      yeah, sometimes I have hardly no recall, but I can just tell that I had a LD. Keep up the good work!

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      Learn from your mistakes and keep it going

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