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      Knowing you dream

      Why does knowing that you dream mean that suddenly you have powers to change anything ( reality ) ?

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      The dream world is very much based off real-life. If we lived in caves and wore pineapples on our heads as the norm, that's what our dreams would be about. If we were in a black hole, our dreams would usually involve black holes. Once we realize this notion, we can import that knowledge into our dreams. Then, there's suddenly an endless amount of possibilities in terms of dream control/experiences because our dreams will mold to anything we want to create. In our dreams, we create our own norms. Lucid dreaming may give us a new grasp on what it means to be awake.
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      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      thx for the reply, the interpretation of my question was not what i intended but its still very interesting. I more wondered why its that when you are in a dream and realize you are dreaming, do you have the ability to take control of the dreamworld?

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      The answer might be simpler than you think.

      The point is that you always have the potential/ability to manipulate the dream world. It's just that you usually can't, because you don't know that you're dreaming. You treat the dream like waking life - in which case, you wouldn't go around jumping off buildings or trying to make the night turn into day, or trying to make people appear out of thin air.

      When you know you are dreaming, you know that these things are possible. That 'knowledge' that it can be done (along with a bit of confidence) makes you able to actually do them.

      As Morpheus said: "You have to let it all go. Fear, doubt and disbelief." You can only do these things when you know the impossible can be done.
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      So then how does it feel to do those godly-powerful actions which you have never done before. Which skills does it require to do them? Is it really as simple as thinking it to be there ? I'm not so sure -.- , what if the dream is a scary situation or sticky and troubling.

      Really without fear of anything going wrong suddenly you are free? is that more how it is? Because last night i had a dream where i was trapped underground in a very narrow situation and i really wanted to escape i thought i was trapped. I really do hope i can have a lucid dream.

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      Since dreams are made up of expectations you do control the dreams to some extent. It's just that since you don't realize that you are dreaming, you don't get the desire or idea to do your goals since you think it's real life.
      I was so much older then, I'm younger then that now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by d3nd3 View Post
      So then how does it feel to do those godly-powerful actions which you have never done before. Which skills does it require to do them? Is it really as simple as thinking it to be there ? I'm not so sure -.- , what if the dream is a scary situation or sticky and troubling.
      The fear you feel (even in scary dreams) is controllable. If you feel that 'just being afraid' of something renders you helpless, you will be helpless. If you find yourself in a scary situation, and actually have the confidence that you can beat it, you will likely beat it (though learning to wake yourself up is a good fail-safe. ). I guess one of the most important things is that you're just going to have to let yourself get used to the feeling of facing your fears. Hell, I still have dream characters and obstacles that I can't beat - at any specific time- simply because they are so overwhelming. I'm very accustomed to dream control, but my control still fails every now and then, depending on how hectic the situation is, or how well I'm focused.

      Believe it or not, dream world control is a lot like waking life control. I don't know how many things you do in waking life that require skill, but it's pretty well-known that expectation, confidence, focus and concentration play a huge role in whether or not you can do something - even if it's something you know you can do. If I've played a song 15 times on a guitar, I still know that sometimes the slightest stray thought (thinking about work tomorrow, while in the middle of playing a chorus) can affect whether or not I can play the song correctly. Dreaming is the same way. There are many different factors that can keep you from doing the things you want to do, and it takes more and more practice to learn to focus your way through these set-backs. So many of my lucid dreams start out as scary/trouble situations. It's actually my #1 trigger for lucidity. It's kind of like "Oh shit...that monster is just a dream character!" (perform energy blast!) The more you get accustomed to fighting off nightmare creatures, the easier (and more fun) it becomes.

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      Really without fear of anything going wrong suddenly you are free? is that more how it is? Because last night i had a dream where i was trapped underground in a very narrow situation and i really wanted to escape i thought i was trapped. I really do hope i can have a lucid dream.
      Yes, it's actually a lot like that. Granted (as I said above), you aren't always going to win every single battle, or escape every situation, or always do exactly what you intend to do, when you intend to do it. That's just the nature of...well...anything, really. I'm a confident graphic artist, but I still fail miserably at some of the things I try to create. Dream work is no different. The thing is, though, that the more comfortable you get with it, the easier the control becomes. When it comes to something like being trapped, it's often that your anxiety about being trapped with make you much less able to become un-trapped. You'll be thinking to yourself "OMG what if I can't get out of here?! OMG I'm trapped! I'm scared! Aaaaah!!!" and so any attempt you make to take control of the dream is going to working against the - already enormous - amount of fear and doubt that you are experiencing. If you think you can't, you can't. If you think you're trapped, you are. If you think 'well, I know I'm dreaming, and I should be able to walk through this wall, but it's a wall! How the hell am I supposed to walk through it???" you won't walk through it.

      You have to just...walk through it.
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