What if dreams were nothing but that?

**moe** · 01-23-2004 10:47 PM

What if dreams were nothing more than tests being performed by aliens in a galaxy far away. Not being able to reach earth with their current technology, and having the need to study our humanity to revive their own they used technology centuries beyond ours to create false scenarios in our heads.

They needed something subtle, something that would not provoke us. Testing us this way would only feel normal to us. They would find something we did during the day, and modify it a bit and see how we would behave.

Why else doesn't our logic function when we are sleeping? They trun it off for two reasons. The first, so we don't realize that we are dreaming and hence ruin the experiment, and the second is because they already have logic. That is why they chose to turn it off in our heads. They only needed the emotinal part of us. That's what they are missing.

The reason they don't just study what we do during the day is because the way we live is slightly different than their style of living. They need to examine specific questions that would ultimately benifit them.

Lucid dreamers are aware, but not aware enough. They are aware that they are dreaming, but those aliens developed techniques to keep us from knowing what's behind all this. An old trick was to fool the dreamer that he had a false awaking. This way they can keep the experiment going. Now they just give the dreamer control over his dreams as a distraction.

I hate to see what will happen if we all discover their manipulation. Would that mean they would stop these tests? Would that mean no more dreams? I haven't had dreams for the past couple of days since I started thinking about idea. What about you?

moe.

**Bladus** · 01-23-2004 10:52 PM

Well, thats a pretty cool idea. Aliens from a distant planet causing us to have dreams. I haven't had any good dream recall for the past two nights but I dout it has anything to do with aliens.

But, it is still possiblilty i guess. I'll put it on my "why we have dreams list"

**GestaltAlteration** · 01-23-2004 11:50 PM

nice imagination ......... -.-

Doubt it

**Lowercase Society** · 01-24-2004 12:22 AM

hey, its way better than sticking things up my...

**Demosthenes** · 01-24-2004 10:50 PM

I haven't had any dream recall for the last two nights either? Maybe the aliens know enough about us and are now coming down to vaporize the earth with a moleculer disruption device.

I doubt it though.

**Lowercase Society** · 01-24-2004 10:55 PM

WOWAH! your avatar!

STARCRAFT! I LOVE THE ZEALOTS! "MY LIFE FOR AIUR" or whatever the homeland is named!

**Demosthenes** · 01-24-2004 11:21 PM

Yeah zealots are awesome, but I also love the archon as seen below.

I also loved Tassadar, may we always remember that he sacraficed his life to destroy the Zerg overmind.

**Ultima** · 01-26-2004 02:50 AM

dreams are the body's way of preventing the brain from becoming corrupt

I read somewhere that if you intentionally prevent someone from going into REM sleep they will eventually die..

**Lowercase Society** · 01-26-2004 04:09 PM

bad ass.

**Kaniaz** · 01-26-2004 06:19 PM

If you prevent somebody from sleeping for a long time, then, yes, they will inevitably die. I used to place starcraft. But then I got bored of it.

That's an intresting idea, moe, but I doubt wether or not that could be very true. It sounds like something out The Matrix.

**nerve** · 01-26-2004 06:32 PM

Originally posted by moe
I haven't had dreams for the past couple of days since I started thinking about idea. What about you?

are you sure you didn't have a dream? I've woken a few times and I was sure I didn't dream, but then later something triggered a memory and I realized that I did in fact, have a dream. the truth is you cannot be 100% certain that you had no dreams during that time. perhaps an overactive imagination subconsciously caused you to believe you didn't have any dreams..

what if when you last woke up, everything that you believe ever happened in your past was nothing but a dream...think about that.

**Kaniaz** · 01-26-2004 06:35 PM

A book I've read says:

Everybody has dreams. Every single day you will have dreams. However, quite often, you will forget them very quickly and then be led to believe you haven't had a dream. On rare occasions, you may forget the dream the second you wake up, or forget parts of it as it happens.[/b]

**nerve** · 01-26-2004 06:46 PM

which is exactly like something I say all the time...

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
I've asked many people about dreams and more often than not they say \"well, I don't dream\"...this is not true. truth is, everyone dreams, every night. most people choose not to think about it, so the dreams are forgotten as soon as the person wakes up.

word.

**moe** · 01-26-2004 08:36 PM

What I wrote about not having dreams sounded in sync with the story that I made up. Not true though. Although, I should say that I haven't been able to remember my dreams a couple of nights ago. I new I had dreams but I could not, for the life of me, remember any of them.

This morning I remembered one. Now I am back on the dream recall track.

moe.

**nerve** · 01-26-2004 08:41 PM

Originally posted by moe+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(moe)</div>

What I wrote about not having dreams sounded in sync with the story that I made up. *Not true though. *Although, I should say that I haven't been able to remember my dreams a couple of nights ago. *I new I had dreams but I could not, for the life of me, remember any of them.[/b]

possible explanation:

<!--QuoteBegin-Paperdoll EP
perhaps an overactive imagination subconsciously caused you to believe you didn't have any dreams.

the end.

**moe** · 01-26-2004 08:47 PM

I doubt I fooled myself even at a subconscious level. I think imaginatively, but I don't believe or process it in.

moe.

**nerve** · 01-26-2004 08:49 PM

alright. you win.

**evangel** · 01-27-2004 12:39 AM

Ummm. Moe.

...Been watching a lot of sci-fi lately?

I think this came up before... To me, logic never does not exist

(hmm). What I mean is, I believ logic exists ALL THE TIME and cannot be "turned off." Our ability to reason can be confused or things can become complicated by our subconscious, but there is ALWAYS method to "madness" no matter how chaotic or unreasonable things appear to be. Just my 2 cents...

**moe** · 01-27-2004 01:31 PM

Our ability to reason can be confused or things can become complicated by our subconscious[/b]

Interesting answer, but I am not sure why this confusion takes place during a dream and never when we're awake. Consider that even after you wake up from a dream, and do the dream recall you will realize how strange the dream was or illogical. This is probably seconds after you wake up. What happened? Why are you suddenly feeling that what you thought was OK is now strange?

moe.

**evangel** · 01-28-2004 01:35 AM

Not sure i can answer why that is, but it has to do with awareness/consciousness? Regardless, I would still say that all of our dream content is logical... I think it is our knowledge that is limited, leading us to believe that something may be "illogical." Our brains are much more sophisticated than we know. ...Just my theory

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