Thread: failed Magic Mushroom experiement

I'll check out the videos, but I have not been convinced as of right now. I have seen Michael Moore's interviews, and I have seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears what a dishonest smoke and mirrors illusionist he is. I am not saying this as a blind sheep Bush follower. You saw how I feel about the war on drugs, which Bush adamantly supports and even leads. I disagree with Bush on gay marriage, mixing church and state, and all kinds of other things. I just have not been convinced that he was an active participant in the 9/11 tragedy. If he was, then he deserves to have his limbs cut off before being thrown into a school of great white sharks' tank. I just haven't seen any strong evidence of it.

That is all I will say on that topic in this thread. Lucid dreaming is really cool.

yea theres no way im gonna get into any facts or "theorys" about how bush is satan but... all i can say is its much easier to see it for yourself with mind expanding drugs while wathcing fox news and hearing his speeches. he was made to look like a rehabilitated christian in order to deceive americans into WWIII global domination, one country at a time....

you can look at what is said in history to have happened or u can see whats REALLY happening. kinda like how we came to america and slaughtered all indians then wrote history books saying we discovered america and they suddonly are no more. yea real believable....

check this page out
http://www.infowars.com/print/Secret_socie...n_your_face.htm

just look at any fox news logo and the pillars of light and the OX in FOX combine to make the illuminatis main symbol (also AMERICA online logo too) is the eye atop the pyramid on the back of your dollar. fox news i their main reach into your minds

Originally posted by ElijahJones
Friend, I read all the post in this thread and you are not in anyway trying to discourage people from using drugs. Also you have no way of scientifically validating your assertion about what state of mind lucid dreams exists in because you subjected yourself to a mind altering drug. To properly study such things you must use test subjects while you remain sober and rational. But you cannot do that because it is illegal, so your whole premise is flimsy.

BTW alchohol is a drug and a plague, but only to those who do not use it properly. Some drugs such as marijuana may be legalizable but the fact they are currently illegal means that they are off limits for scientific reasearch in humans.

And you are right talking about drugs does not make you a druggy, but doing illegal drugs makes you a criminal and you just confessed here to ingesting illegal drugs on at least three occasions. If there was ever a shake up at this site your IP could be tracked. It would seem to me that the last thing you would want to do is be talking on the internet about illegal activity. You would find more privacy in a cafe.

So this is not necessarily a judgment I am making about you just a word to the wise that what you are doing here is not science and it is not very smart to be talking about it where everyone from CIA to Osama Ben Laden can read it. Thats the base level. Beyond that there is no need to take drugs to experience LD's this site is full of the proof you need for that so why do it at all?

Later Dude,

EJ

I have no regards towards these absurd laws that entheogens should be off limits to human experimentation and discovery. Before immediately asuming that people are drug addicts and have problems maybe you need to do a little research into the position of entheogens (specifically psycilocybe mushrooms and ayuhasca aka yage) in the development of human consciousness itself. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, and you make yourself look very foolish.

Anyhow. Sleep is often difficult to induce since brain activity is in full drive. I've never noticed anything too special about my dreams when I've dosed. I suppose that was one aspect of my research (I did an extensive experiment with mushrooms) that I failed to even think about. I was too caught up in the theory that they may have helped human beings create language which in turn led to the origins of consciousness. Fascinating stuff.

Something I am wondering about, to an experienced Lucid Dreamer who has also been in a hallucinogenic state is to try and dose yourself in your dream. In other words, while dreaming eat mushrooms and see what happens. I'm interested!!! I don't advocate use of synthetic hallucinogens, but if you're more familiar with acid or dxm or anything like that, feel free to try that too. One day when I am more skilled at lucid dreaming I hope to try that, until then, someone try this please, or let me know if you have and what happened.

Originally posted by themindsi



Something I am wondering about, to an experienced Lucid Dreamer who has also been in a hallucinogenic state is to try and dose yourself in your dream. In other words, while dreaming eat mushrooms and see what happens. I'm interested!!! I don't advocate use of synthetic hallucinogens, but if you're more familiar with acid or dxm or anything like that, feel free to try that too. One day when I am more skilled at lucid dreaming I hope to try that, until then, someone try this please, or let me know if you have and what happened.

that sounds like a great idea! seeker should put that up an LD challenge or something. ive smoked herb in non lucids before and started tripping really good and saw police on the streats as taking over and controlling mankind. a great dream would be to imagine being in a huge shroomfield and flying through the air scooping them up with mouth open. i would love to try that personally

It is absolutely true. I have done drugs in dreams and experienced them even on levels beyond the waking effects. I have never done a psychedelic drug in a dream, but as I said, lucid dreaming can produce everthing they do and way more. Lucid dream style mind expansion is all psychedelic drugs can ever hope to produce. I have "tripped" really hard in lots of lucid dreams, including in the last one I had this morning, but I don't work drugs into the scenario. It is about my mind, not external substances. Terrence McKenna claimed that he could smoke DMT in dreams (He was not into lucid dreaming.) and experience the same effect as he did when he smoked it in the waking world. DMT creates the hyperspace experience, and so can lucid dreaming. I am at a point where I don't feel the need to mess with drugs at all. The dream world encapsulates all of the pscychedelic drug world plus an infinite number of other worlds.

incredibly well said

I have had many dreams where i smoke marijuana and i feel the buzz way more than in real life. I havnt tried to lucidly take drugs but its on my to do list.

Originally posted by placid_dreams
I have had many dreams where i smoke marijuana and i feel the buzz way more than in real life. I havnt tried to lucidly take drugs but its on my to do list.

I've always wanted to take a hit of acid LUCIDLY and see what happens, but I keep forgetting

Let me know if you ever do and what it was like

Originally posted by Universal Mind
It is absolutely true. I have done drugs in dreams and experienced them even on levels beyond the waking effects. I have never done a psychedelic drug in a dream, but as I said, lucid dreaming can produce everthing they do and way more. Lucid dream style mind expansion is all psychedelic drugs can ever hope to produce. I have \"tripped\" really hard in lots of lucid dreams, including in the last one I had this morning, but I don't work drugs into the scenario. It is about my mind, not external substances. Terrence McKenna claimed that he could smoke DMT in dreams (He was not into lucid dreaming.) and experience the same effect as he did when he smoked it in the waking world. DMT creates the hyperspace experience, and so can lucid dreaming. I am at a point where I don't feel the need to mess with drugs at all. The dream world encapsulates all of the pscychedelic drug world plus an infinite number of other worlds.

Terrence McKenna had some great ideas, I don't think he had the proper research behind some of his theories, but it's worth a look. To anyone intersested I would reccomend "Food of the Gods", and "Invisible Landscape" (which i left at a friends house and mysteriously 'disappeared'). I still have much experimentation to continue with mushies and must try yage when the chance arrives. Although somewhat similar, the two states of mind, meaning the psychedelic and lucid dream world, I believe both offer amazing experiences and revelations. They may be just different gateways to the same 'place', but somehow I doubt it's the same, though somehow interconnected. Wow, i just read what I wrote, it's a bit jumbled, if you don't undestand that garble, just disregard! But give Terrence McKenna a looksee!

One of the first and only lucid dreams I had happened when I ate about a gram of rediculously potent mushrooms. It was my second lucid dream and it was the first one where I could successfully fly. Definately the most vivid lucid dream i've ever had, though that might just mean it was the easiest to remember.

i seriously dont know how any of you can go to sleep on shroomz. i used to get so high i start freaking out. on a nice low weed high its easy to sleep though...

I will do OpheliaBlue. People claim that you hav less dreams or lucid dreams while being stoned before you go 2 sleep. This is partly tru but when you do dream while wasted you hav the best dreams ever. I tried having lucid dreams while on goldie but i jst slept the whole night.

Originally posted by placid_dreams
I will do OpheliaBlue. People claim that you hav less dreams or lucid dreams while being stoned before you go 2 sleep. This is partly tru but when you do dream while wasted you hav the best dreams ever. I tried having lucid dreams while on goldie but i jst slept the whole night.

My best dreams happen when I am going through sober periods. My ONLY lucid dreams happen when I am going through sober periods.