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      There is one thing that bothers me everytime I read similar question. If someone wouldn't kill a living creature for fun in waking life, how is it possible, that it brings you joy to kill in a lucid dream? It's not like your personality changes during sleep. Or does it? Is the morality center shot down while we dream?

      I just don't understand, how can someone enjoy killing in dreams, if it's against his principles in WL. Would you then kill in WL, if there was no punishment for it?

      And I assume, that most people don't do bad things not because of fear of punishment, but because they don't feel it's right to do bad things. So even if there is no punishment after harming a DC, (and this is under assumption that they are not real, although I'm not so sure about that), I don't feel comfortable doing it, and I would most certainly not enjoy it. The only time I would have no problem disposing of a bad guy in WL or in LD, is if it was to protect myself or other people, but I'm pretty sure I would feel like crap about it.

      Sorry, if this comes off strong. It's not aimed at anybody, I'm just puzzled and looking for answers myself. Happy dreams y'all

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      Is the morality center shot down while we dream?
      The morality center, if there is such a thing, would likely be shut down during a regular, non-lucid dream, but NOT during a lucid dream. All your morals, your sensibilities, and your general regard for yourself and others is intact and available, because you are fully self-aware in a lucid dream.

      This doesn't mean that you can't do what you want to do in a LD, but it does mean that any decision you make reflects upon your true self, and is not happily lost to some nebulous "it was just a dream" excuse. If you are lucid, then you are aware and, right or wrong, the shit you do should matter, if to no one else, then to you.
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      It's strange even though I'm in a dream I still have the same amount of decency as I'm awake. I'd think after being able to LD I would have convinced myself dream worlds have no real link to the real world, but somehow morality goes over and I hesitate to pull triggers often lol. There's a lot of stuff I want to try out like Agent Smith's stab in the chest and make a clone trick, but I don't think I'd be able to get to use it

      luckily in most situations the hostile/passive line is never uncertain in most of my dreams, its usually just monsters + mobsters and friendlies, no drama. Passive LD'ing isn't as fun as hostile LD'ing

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      Personally I don't think it's a huge deal if someone goes around hurting DCs, though this sort of disinhibition is a little unsettling.

      I view DCs as extensions of my own psyche, and therefore tend to treat them with a degree of respect. But I have no problem pulling out a few weapons when a dragon rears its ugly head.

      To each his own, as they say.

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      Every time i kill someone or even attempt to the dream police come after me and fuck me up into consciousness. Sucks to have morals.
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      [QUOTE=Ellusiion;1905327]Every time i kill someone or even attempt to the dream police come after me and fuck me up into consciousness. Sucks to have morals.[/QUOTE]

      No, Ellusiion, it doesn't.

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