Thread: Help, first lucid dream, I think. Please read and say what you think.

So sorry if I wasn't clear, I was frantically writing this from my memory as quick as I could.

Basically - do you think I went lucid? I am freaking out here - didn't get to sleep at all last night with all these questions and I am feeling it today

Yes Ryan, you were lucid. Even though you did not have full control, the fact that you realizing you we're Dreaming means you were lucid. Keep up your training and your control will get better. Congratulations on your successful WILD and your first intentional Lucid Dream.

lucid dreaming = realizing you were dreaming while you were dreaming

Dream control can be had without any lucidity. lucidity can happen without any dream control. The odds are just higher that you can control your dream while you are lucid.

Congrats on first lucid. Hope you continue to try to dream.

Thank you for your replies, this was a surreal experience... didn't know one could actually achieve it.

I'm a little freaked and shocked at the moment Thanks nonetheless though

As the others said, yes, you were indeed lucid. ^_^ I don't think it is very common for people to have complete control in their dreams when lucid. It would actually probably be a little boring if that were the case. I've had trouble controlling my lucid dreams as well, but I think flying is the thing I most commonly do.

Thank you yes it was indeed weird. I didn't believe it at first because it was the first time I have remembered a dream since reading lucidity and it worked. Shocked me! I can't explain the feeling when I went into the dream you only realise what people describe when you experience it. Crazy!

With regards to flying I tried this in my dream and I merely floated, lost control. Any advice on how to correct this?

Originally Posted by rhill1991

Thank you yes it was indeed weird. I didn't believe it at first because it was the first time I have remembered a dream since reading lucidity and it worked. Shocked me! I can't explain the feeling when I went into the dream you only realise what people describe when you experience it. Crazy!

With regards to flying I tried this in my dream and I merely floated, lost control. Any advice on how to correct this?

Hmm... Well flying seems to be different for each person. I've tried a variety of ways to achieve it. Most commonly I simply jump, kick my legs a bit, and then start to fly. I also often make a sort of flap or make swimming motion with my arms to stay in the air. I've heard of other people that swim through the air in their dreams. In one of my dreams I described flying to my sisters as being similar to eating mints (odd, I know) basically a very light and fresh feeling through my whole body. Another way I fly sometimes is by sprouting wings, though not very often. I find it sometimes easier to steer and go to higher altitudes with wings. The last way that I've tried flying is by shooting myself into the air like a rocket. I simply imagine myself shooting into the air very fast then find myself high in the air. It's quite exhilarating. ^_^ Anyways, the basic idea with any dream control is to believe that you can do it. You have to imagine yourself achieving it. Doubt is what destroys the ability to control dreams.

Other fun things to try in dreams are breathing underwater (it feels quite strange, but also awesome), controlling fire (I still need more practice), and using super strength (lifting large objects, etc). Try keep focused though and always remind yourself that it's a dream. I often have trouble focusing on a specific goal, which sometimes leads me to being distracted by dream characters and forgetting what I intended to do.

Thank you Kaira, this has enlightened me.

As this was my first LD (well, first that I can remember being this age and knowing what it is now) - I remember being excited in my dream and being unable to speak - like whispering. This was very wierd - but my DC's understood me, even though I was sounding strange (obviously they would though, they are me!)

I do remember when I was really young, I had this reoccuring dream that I could fly - when I was flying, I remember thinking that this was amazing, and when I counciously tried to fly again - I couldn't, but I could only jump really high! I don't think I knew what lucidity was then.




Strange thing happened last night, I was very tired and falling asleep - and I distinctly remember seeing a 3D hand or a fist, literally in about 4 seconds of closing my eyes, the hand was grasping and clenching on a long stretchy arm on my eye lids - I also distinctly felt loads of shaking and vibrations on my legs and my head was spinning (but I though it was me being poorly, as I have been over the past couple of days) I didn't want to experience this so I immediately opened my eyes; I do regret this - as this could have been the start of WILD? It felt very wierd.

I do want to LD again - but the first LD I remember (as written above) seemed scary in a sense of when I remember the atmopshere in waking life, it kind of frightens me that I was there - but strange thing is; when I was in the dream I had so much confidence to roam around; even though the eerie dreamscape took place. Is this normal to have this confidence in dreams - but a little worried about then when thinking back outside of the dream?

Thanks if you answer this - sorry for my ramblings; but I am very interested in this subject and I feel like the only people I can talk to are the people who have also experienced this weird phenomena. I have tried speaking to my girlfriend, she thinks it's too scary (even though she has A LOT of out of body experiences). I tell her to embrace it; but she dosen't want to!

Thanks,

Ryan

Ryan:

You need, I think, to shake off the fear of LD'ing, which seems to be fueled not by your experience, but by the hyperventilation about non-existent SP horrors prevalent in these, and other, forums.

As you noticed yourself, there is nothing to be frightened of in your own dreams, be they lucid or not, or caused by WILD or not. Pay attention to your own experience, it's telling you the truth.

The imaginings that people conjure regarding WILD are entertaining at best, but useless in reality, especially to the folks imagining them. SP*, hypnagogic imagery, and those vibrations are simply natural events that happen every night, the only difference being that you are consciously aware of them. In other words, they are just so much "noise" to be encountered as you make your transition to sleep and dreams during WILD and DEILD. Try not to consider them at all if you can, and as nothing more than roadmarks if you must notice them. Don't look for them, don't dwell on them, and above all don't fear them. I also suggest you stop reading reports about them ... the disinformation about the noise, especially SP, has reached almost destructive level these days; it is certainly not worth your attention, and definitely not worth your fear.


* SP is actually a witnessing of REM Atonia, which tends to happen while waking up, and almost never during WILD -- all you're likely sensing during WILD is your body's natural state of relaxing -- or you are doing a little creative psychosomatia based on your established fears.

Hmmm... Well, I'm not sure if I can give much advice in the area of WILD's since I don't think I've ever experienced one myself.

As for having more confidence in dreams, but being afraid of them when awake, I would have to say that for me it's sort of the opposite really. In dreams I find my ability to think logically greatly reduced. Even when I'm lucid I still tend to make dumb decisions. Such as when being chased by monsters I sometimes forget that they can't hurt me. Often times I wake up angry because I did something idiotic and then try to go back to sleep so I can fix it. So generally, I'm actually quite eager to dream. The only time I would maybe be scared would be if I had watched some horror movie recently, though I suppose something like that could help in gaining lucidity.

One thing I have to mention though is that I've been interested in dreams my whole life, and also have pretty weird imagination. Because I've always kept some interest in my dreams they haven't changed that much from when I was a child. None of my dreams are really that realistic. For example, last night I dreamt that I was a female knight working together with some other knights in the mountains. Two of them got sick or injured so they had to lie in the tents. I went exploring and met with some natives of the area who weren't very friendly, and then I met a time-traveling man from the past. At the most, I think I might have been semi-lucid, but that's about it, even though the dream was so different from my everyday life. It makes me very angry sometimes when I don't become lucid from extremely odd occurrences. What also makes me mad is when I realize that I'm dreaming but I don't really do much about it because my mind is so messed up and I can't think logically at all. I think I need to practice more awareness in everyday life. :/

Kaira,

This is the exact same thing that I experience. I have always been interested in the mind and how it works, but I think this interest and understanding of the mind has made me research it too much and I have become drawn to the bad effects of what people experience. For example, I read up loads of bad mirror LD's and my first recall LD had a mirror in it... suprisingly, nothing scary happened but I did start to get an eerie feeling the longer I looked, so I looked away and then woke up.

I do remember being semi-lucid and lucid (maybe) when I was younger, thinking back to all my experiences in dreams, and I too, have woken up annoyed that I did not recognise that the dreamscape was stupid and logic was messed up - which I didn't realise in the dream.

For example, one dream I was in a restaurant, sitting in the cooking oil while cooking the food... I mean come on, why can't I become lucid there? lol

I really need to get past the fear of LD'ing and embrace it, I keeping telling myself I will do it, but when I get closer to that "bed time" I get freaked and try not to induce lucidity, like how I did the first time I experienced it.

A appreciate all the posts you guys have given to try and help me understand this situation.





Sageous,

Thank you for your reply, it has made me feel better and I must understand my experiences are my own and I must not cloud it with others. I will read your sections on WILD and try to embrace the idea - and not to fear it.

I love the fact that our mind can do this, and I am genuinely interested. I want to persue LD'ing but I don't want it to take over my life, like it has already started to (to an extent)...