Eternal lucid dreamers

**Box77** · 03-26-2013 08:17 PM

From time to time I see in the forum people claiming that they can't stop lucid dreaming every night and look for help or some way to stop that, etc. They always post just 1 or 2 times (in the same thread) and always stay in the "Lurker" user title and you never find more answers from them.
On the other hand, long ago I started a thread asking for how many days in a row people used to have a LD at least once per day. Apparently it's around 7 days or so, with spaces before the next row, which I think have more sense and belongs to people who master this skill.

Am I wrong or it's not possible to LD every night without interruption?

If you're curious about the thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...ml#post1494169

**Pabo3** · 03-26-2013 10:39 PM

I'm no expert, but in theory, if you do it right with a constant and adecuate sleeping pattern and using direct induction techniques, it should be possible. However, in the practice, it's almost impossible to success in all the WILD or similar attempts and always sleep the same without any interrumption, apart from the other millions of minor things that affect the chance of LDing.

**Finnegan** · 03-27-2013 02:11 AM

I've been having LD's naturally since I became self aware at the age of two, my mother would always tell me bedtime stories about her dreams and adventures in them, such as stepping out her window and flying, how she recognized the area's from above, and other things she could do in her dreams. It suddenly clicked for me (I learned language at a very young age, my first words were "wazzat" - always asking them to give me names of things and describe them) that this self awareness I learned could be applied to dreams, and I could do the things mom was telling me about. Thus I started having lucids regularly and excersizing dream control. Eventually I realized that it was not quite so simple to enter a lucid dream as just going to sleep with the intention, since I relied entirely on my ability to know almost instinctually that I was dreaming (I am still very good at this, but it is not an end all solution). So I started practicing my active imagination, what I've come to call the LDD -Lucid Day Dream (I've posted a thread about it in the Attaining Lucidity forum), Which I can do consistently whenever I want and decide to use it everyday (I am an artist so it is very useful).

-here's the link if you're curious

**Earthatic** · 03-27-2013 05:08 AM

At least once per day, I am able to do it, as long as I have an irregular sleeping schedule. If I am on a monophasic routine, lucid dreams are much less frequent.

There are Tibetan monks that claim to be completely lucid throughout their dream cycle. Apparently, this is a side effect of their meditation regimen, so I'm sure it's possible.

**Scionox** · 03-27-2013 07:08 AM

Definitely possible to have lucid dreams all the time, some people are manage to do it naturally, but even if one is not natural lucid dreamer, with enough of practice, intention and dedication it is possible.

**Box77** · 03-27-2013 10:11 AM

As I can see, under certain circumstances, which may require some dedication, practice, effort, regular/irregular schedules, etc. from the side of the subject. it's possible to have long periods of daily LD. But apparently these periods could be easily breakable if the subject is immerse into certain activities during his/her WL which should be exactly the opposite to those circumstances.
The easiest way I find to break those long periods of LD, could be to deprive these people in the first place, of their REM stage for a while, i.e. When there's a baby on the run (they won't let you properly sleep). On the other hand, perhaps a job and/or activity that could demand more attention on different things to the subject of fantasy and imagination, i.e. a Bus driver, a Paperboy, studies, etc. could help to break these periods of WL awareness, etc. Yoga practice, demands lot of meditation. And as far as I am concerned, WL stress took down my LD frequency from 3 or 4 in a week to none for months.
I don't know, but I don't see yet, that it's not possible to break a pattern of LD every night. It's gone just by changing WL individual behavior.

**Finnegan** · 03-27-2013 05:30 PM

I would say that depends on the individuals ability to maintain focus during times of stress. Meditation is very good at calming the mind; it is extremely useful for ADA, then coupled with the proper induction techniques and constant training with the LDD it is quite possible to maintain lucidity and use dream control through the day and night. though the consistency is a journey and not a destination, if you constantly practice towards it, you will get better, and a master will tell you that ultimately failure is not falling down, but refusing to get up when you do.

**Box77** · 03-28-2013 01:34 PM

I think that it could also depend on the environment where the subject grows/lives. If it's not appropriate to help the individual grow its potentials, simply they won't be right developed and consequently he/she won't be able to perform tasks which would be so simple to do if he/she has grown in a proper environment.

**Sensei** · 03-28-2013 02:08 PM

Well... S
Hukif, naiya, *lucidis, and some others have all gotten to a point of at least 1 LD a night. Naiya used to be at a point that she was 100% but got out of practice, she has like one or two a night right now I think. Hukif is really close to 100%, maybe 99% of his dreams are LDs. And oreoboy is getting pretty close to that. But one a night is very possible. Lots achieve it if they stick to it with heart and determination.

My record is 7 I think. I kind of forgot to keep track.

I am getting closer to one a night. Gotta practice! Constant vigilance!

**Higat** · 03-31-2013 03:01 AM

I have had, last summer, 9 lucid dreams in 8 days. Two of them were short ( around 2 minutes ) but still, I am amazed. I noticed that after two weeks or so of normal dreams, I get a large amount of LDs - I also was very calm in the country, I had nothing to do other than think about lucid dreaming

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Anyways I' ll see if it does the same now; I didn't had any LDs since over a month until now

**LucidAcademy** · 05-02-2013 03:48 AM

Yogis and Tibetan Buddhist monks achieve this state of 24/7 awareness. Some very strong meditators as well.

When we reframe our idea of consciousness during lucid dreaming we see there is no reason for us to lose consciousness really.

Lucid dreaming is the first and most important step. But from there we move into lucid sleep. This is retaining awareness during the deep sleep periods. It is not like a lucid dream where one acts with characters and performs all these wild actions.