Have you tried to 'detach' yourself from a lucid dream?

[Elioelio]

I've had quite a few lucid dreams - I've never tried to have one, I just get them sometimes. So when I'm in one I find it hard to get the imagination as to what to do with it. So I've started to concentrate on the fact I know this is a dream and how my brain might be working. First thought I had was - 'Does this place look and feel real' - and it does. I can feel the sun and smell the grass, feel the wind. I stare at people’s faces - their skin is bad and they're usually ugly and all look similar. I’ve never met them before. How can the brain construct this? If I touch or hold someone, I can feel the warmth of them and the pressure. The most interesting thing I’ve found is that if you really try to listen to people talk - its utter nonsense. At first they make sense – but if you really listen – you end up actually listening to your brain! I sometimes feel a little skitzo. I was taking citalopram a couple of months ago (a seratonin reuptake inhibitor) and that made me hear voices while I was awake - in sleep paralysis. If you don't really listen, you hear complete sentences that seem to make sense. But if you really try to listen it falls apart and you get 'television is bouncing on the keyboard...' or something similar. While I was taking this medication, I also felt someone get into bed with me, hold me tight and whisper in my ear for a few minutes. But thats another story. Didn't know if anyone else had thought about lucid dreaming in this way?

[MasterMind]

It's really all about what you expect the experience to be. We are in TOTAL control of dream experience and that produces the expected result. When I was a beginner I thought that dreams was a hazy place impossible to become aware of. But I believed that I could remember one. So I begin my hazy recall of dreams and slowly worked up my confidence of being able to recall more. Then I watched movies about dreams and I wondered why I had so chaotic dreams and that I had more realistic dreams when I was a kid. So I started to focus on having vivid dreams, because my theory was that they would be easier to remember and become aware of. I then wrote a thread explaining a method of how to make dreams more vivid and easier to remember. http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-sign...reams-try.html Even though I didn't knew it then, I know now that the reason to why this worked so well was because I expected it to work. Schh don't tell the people in the thread! It's not a placebo effect I don't trick people to believe anything, they chose to believe it themselves. If they don't believe it will work, it probably wont. But alot of people did believe it would work and look at the result. Anyway now I started to come up with theories of how vividness of dreams might help me get lucid more often. And hear and behold I started to become lucid more often. But I still expected dreams to be a somewhat unstable experience, so that was what I got. I then tried to talk to DC:s and well have sex with some of them. (A) And I had read on the forum that doing this is something that will make you lose awareness and often wake up. So what happened? Well exactly that... But then I found this link of belief and how it affects your experience and thought "Dreams are just as stable as waking reality, DC:s are nice and talk in a realistic way, sex doesn't make me lose awareness of wake up." and they I had two really realistic and stable lucid sex dreams! So when I read this from your post "So I've started to concentrate on the fact I know this is a dream and how my brain might be working." I recognised that kind of thinking myself and immediatelly thought "OK this guy is probably going to describe some weird behavior from DC:s". Because I used to think of dreams in terms of psychology and an experience of your subconscious mind and well that has ceratin beliefs and expectations to it so that became my experience. Today I don't even really like to call it dreams, because dreams also have associations that can ruin your experience like "hazy, unstable, weird, mindcreated". (I put in the mindcreated word for you skeptical people who want OBEs but can't seem to get one.) <- Your own belief is blocking you. If you want to open up watch this: Dr Thomas Campbell - My Big TOE (1 of 18) - YouTube So now I call it non-physical and try to view it like a different reality. And guess what, now I don't even have to stabilise it anymore. This was kind of a long post for just a simple question, but I like to write.. Anyway I hope that you can with the help of this information make people talk normally again, if that is what you wish for. Sweet dreams... uh I mean I hope you have nice experiences of the non-physical world!