Insomnia after SSILD

[LucasGrossmann]

I tried ssild combined with wbtb for the last few days and got some pretty good results. I wake myself up after 4.5hours of sleep and stay awake for 10-20mins. But every time i performed ssild, its very hard to fall asleep.. It usually takes me 5-10mins to fall asleep but every time i tried ssild i just found myself thinking about random stuff and lying awake for 30mins to an hour :/ I tried staying awake 5-10mins but either i fell asleep while performing ssild or i couldn't sleep after the technique. Should i try meditating after ssild to calm my mind or would that mess up the whole technique? Or does anyone have some other advice? Thanks!

[Redrivertears]

Hey there, It happens to me quite often too. There's always a risk when trying to WILD or using a technique like SSILD that if I'm already too awake. Then the practice will just waken me up further and make it hard to get back to sleep. When I do find myself lying awake, I try not to move. Quite often I think I'm quite awake and shuffle around in my bed a lot because I can't find a comfortable position (being too restless). I know from experience if I can just keep still, even if its a bit uncomfortable, I'll be asleep in a few minutes again. Unfortunately, that doesn't always work, so if that fails, its often a good idea for me to get out of bed for a while and do something relaxing that doesn't require physical exertion (reading something on these forums works great! ). After 15 mins or so, I return to bed, usually calmed down and less restless, and can resume sleep pretty swiftly again (though know I'll go right back to insomnia if I attempt to WILD a second time at that point). Hope that helps, -Redrivertears-

[LucasGrossmann]

Thanks that was really helpful. I will try it again tonight

[werty52]

Awesome advice, I'll try this too as I tend to get insomnia after SSILD sometimes . It seems to depend on how focused I am during the cycles: heavy focus on cycles = more likely to have DILD after going back to sleep (but harder to fall asleep); light focus on cycles = more likely to WILD (but harder to complete the cycles). That might just be me though