Thread: Lucid Dreaming and how to master it in 30 seconds

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if you're against it, why spread the "technique"? inducing a (lucid) heart attack just to MAYBE control dreams... most stupid thing i've ever read

I'm just simply sharing a theory. You do not have to agree with it, it hasn't been proven. Also, you do not seem to understand the sheer possibilities of this. It is not merely an induction technique, it could be key to eternal life. Imagine, living for years with all the power in the world, free of any boundaries, and waking up with only 30 seconds gone by. And if it doesn't work, then no harm could come from it. I do not get what you are talking about.

Do you mean like cryogenics? Maybe you change the title to "Study Shows Theory about what happen while your body is under stress" instead of "Lucid Dreaming (and how to master it in 30 seconds)". I honestly don't think this is a "technique, or idea" should be encourage here. (IMO)

Well the study doesn't show a theory, it is a scientific fact. The post is a theory on how one could theoretically master lucid dreaming in 30 seconds, so I think the title is accurate.

Originally Posted by spellbee2

Lucid dreaming is not an instant thing - you usually can't just go from complete beginner (aka, never remembering any dreams at night, never had a lucid dream before) to instant lucid dream master just from trying a single technique once. The majority of learning to lucid dream is practicing techniques until they start working - no technique starts working instantly. In fact, some people spend months trying out different techniques, seeing what works for them, and then practicing them until they have them down pat.

This could work if you have had years of practicing or a natural lucid dreamer under your belt. Even then, it may not give you eternal life.

Actually it could be accomplished on ones first lucid dream, whether that means complete beginner or 5 years of no lucids. And another thing; you could technically live forever in 30 seconds, as paradoxical as it sounds, all you would have to do is continuously speed up your consciousness. Let's say you have one of our seconds out of the thirty left. Let's say in the dreamers time, they have 1 year left. Now what if they sped up their consciousness by 10 times by inducing another heart attack. Now they have 10 years left. You could do this indefinitely, so 0.0001 seconds could last you 1000 years of lucidity. Once you have reached the limits of your brain power, and you woke up, only 30 seconds would have gone by, in which you could induce another lucid heart attack and live another thousand years of lucidity.

I hate to be a buzzkill, MinerPhill03, but there may be one major flaw in your plan, in that you probably cannot fool your brain into thinking it is having a heart attack.

Physiologically speaking, your brain has no trouble at all with distinguishing between reality and imagination. It is your consciousness that has this difficulty during dreams, because you cannot remember that things are not real; your brain is actually running the show, and doing so while fully based in reality.

Also, your brain, in the end, is you, so you would have to somehow trick yourself into believing you are having a heart attack, which would be a pretty neat trick... especially because, while lucid, every part of you has no trouble with distinguishing between reality and imagination.

Finally, if you actually did manage to trick your brain into having a heart attack, it might just oblige you by triggering a real heart attack, and this is never a good thing.

On top of all that, there really isn't any correlation between increased brain activity and time dilation. That the mice's brain activity increased does not necessarily mean that they experienced an increased passage of subjective time (indeed, mice don't experience that passage of time at all, now that I think of it).

Feel free to ignore all of what I said, though, because some things are just fun to think about!

I agree with Sageous on this, MinerPhill03. It might be a good idea to just stick with the what is proven to work. BTW, How are you doing with your lucidity or dream recall?

I had a nice and lengthy reply to you guys, and apparently it auto saved, but it got deleted - Anyways, it went something like blah blah blah physiologically blah blah blah natural selection blah blah blah coma blah blah blah blah opposite. And the reason it's not proven because no one has tried it. If the world stuck with what was proven, how could we improve anything? We would still be sitting in our horse drawn carriages shooting bows and arrows thinking the world was flat. Heck, if we stayed with what was proven, people would never believe lucid dreaming existed. Or natural selection. Or any other major accomplishment in history. If you want to get even deeper, nothing is proven. The only thing we CAN prove is that we exist. For all we know, everything except ourselves is a dream, and we're amnesiacs in a coma in a hospital. And my recall is horrible as of now, and I've haven't had a lucid dream in years. Judge me if you wish, personally I don't think experience matters much. Many of the greatest thinkers in history had little to no experience, not like I think I'm a great thinker or anything, but from your tone I'm assuming you think my experience makes my opinion obsolete.

^^ I for one was not judging you, and I never considered your experience at all when I posted. Also, I was not discussing proof, or sticking with what has already been proven. I was simply mentioning what I saw as a problem with your idea... please try not to take it personally; it was not meant to be.

The part about proof and experience I was talking to Stoic. The first part was for you. Sorry for not making that clear. I never got offended btw sorry if it came out that way.

I think people here just don't want to see you set yourself up for failure, you know? *shrugs*

.... i almost tricked my brain into having a heart attack(maybe lol.) my heart rate got Very fast, hot under skin... i smelled burnt toast, or something like it (this was at coffee shop) and freaked, had to go outside and cool off.. a panic attack that escalated in seconds lol.

Heart attack? Sounds scary even if its fake one.

Originally Posted by ~Stoic Beauty~

I think people here just don't want to see you set yourself up for failure, you know? *shrugs*

It's the only way to go .