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      ld without doing rc?

      Due to my busy schedule I can't do even the simplest RC. My mind is busy and I'm under pressure . Stress and studies are making distance between me n the world of LDing. I can say I haven had any for one month or more but I do sometimes think about it. Last night I had 6 short LDs. Chaining ones. Is it possible to induce lucid dreaming the WILD and DEILD styles without doing RC n without having a dream journal?
      I wanted to add something as my second question : my normal dreams are so crazy and silly. When I attempt to write them down I really dunno how to explain them.Does anyone know how to do it?
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      It is still possible to attain lucidity without doing reality checks, but in not doing them your chances go down.

      There are ways of increasing your odds in other ways of course. Since things are hectic I would suggest autosuggestion before going to sleep at night. I would also recommend some visualisation exercises where you imagine yourself becoming lucid before bed as well.

      In reference to the dream journal maybe drawing them would be a good alternative.
      "Parable.- Those thinkers in whom all stars move in cyclic orbits are not the most profound: whoever looks into himself as into vast space and carries galaxies in himself also knows how irregular all galaxies are; they lead into the chaos and labyrinth of existence."- Friedrich Nietzsche, the gay science, First published in 1882 revised in 1887, translated by Walter Kaufmann [/SIGPIC]

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      Thank u for ur reply do u have a solution for my second silly problem ? I really can't tolerate THAT one :/

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      I'm guilty of doing very few, if any, RCs, and I still have a decent amount of LDs. Thing is, in my dream I never get lucid through spontaneously reality checking, but more through noticing something odd or "just knowing" I'm dreaming, and then I might or not proceed to perform a RC, but all the while already knowing I'm dreaming. But maybe this is just me.

      Learning to dream journal is another story. Everyone's dreams are crazy and don't make sense, but if you remember stuff you're sure going to be able to write something down. At first it may be just a feeling, maybe you remember you were feeling happy or whatever, or you remember a color or an object. That's okay, you can start with this. In time your dreams will become richer in plot, but bear in mind they will hardly ever make sense. I scribble down everything that comes to mind and in the morning sometimes I have a laugh because what I wrote makes no sense whatsoever. Anything you can write to let your mind know this is important for you.
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      In truth, Mahshid, you don't need RC's to become lucid at all. During a dream, they are tools to be used to confirm that you are dreaming, meaning that you must already be lucid before you do a RC in a dream. Contrary to popular internet myth, RC's really don't make you lucid; they merely confirm it.

      RC's don't even come into the picture when doing WILD/DEILD, so even if you can't accept that RC's don't make you lucid, you can be confident that you can still become lucid through WILD/DEILD without any RC's (as, I think, you've already noted in your OP).

      All that said, RC's real value is in building your lucid mindset during the day. If you can find a way to sneak some RC's into your day, you will likely be better off for it.


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      ...my normal dreams are so crazy and silly. When I attempt to write them down I really dunno how to explain them.Does anyone know how to do it?
      Regarding this, I think Martakartus already nailed it... just write down what you dreamed, regardless of how crazy and random it all seems. I also recommend that you try your best to find some time to do your journaling, because a DJ is both an important facet of developing your LD'ing skills and a great record to look back on in the years to come.
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      About writing down the dream. What I done the previous days was to use my phones voice recorder, as I feel it easier and faster to talk.
      Then when I've time, often in evenings before I go sleep, I listen to these recordings, laugh my butt off how tired I sound and what I'm telling, and then I write it down in text form.

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