Thread: Lucidity on demand

I'm not sure I understand. Everything you described in effort to gain lucidity was AFTER you fell asleep and were in a non lucid dream. And you are asking for more ideas how to become lucid once you are in a non lucid dream.

Tried Programming my brain trough a computer screen,it didnt work as the screen wouldn't load up.
-Tried Anchoring a certain event in the dream ...
-Tried engraving a decree into the dreamspace ...

Things im going to try next :
-Opening a gate inside the dream ...
-Telling my subconcious to make it so that each time i close my eyes after smelling Rosemary (or cumin) i would enter a lucid dream.
-Create an airlock inside the dream...

But in your last post you are saying that you are looking for something that would make your body fall asleep without any prerequisites such as being sleepy. Basically to fall asleep on demand.

for example,if you had previously slept some 10 hours in a row,or if you stomach was extreamly full,this would physically unable you to fall asleep,

Your first question is basically asking for an idea how to enter LD once you are in a dream. For that we have practices such as Reality checks, awareness and mantras that help you recognize that you are dreaming and that will get you lucid.

Your second question is how to fall asleep at any time. I think you can train yourself for that too to some degree, but that also may take time.

dear gab
i have no idea where you reached the notion that everything i described was in an effort to gain lucidity after i fell asleep,
i never said that,i think you made that up somewhere while rading the thread.
all i've said here is that i've had several LUCID dreams (i didn't mention my dreams were lucid but i don't have any idea how you could think you could speak to your subconcious or spirit guide in non-lucid dreams which i did mention,) in which i've tried to find a way to induce a LUCID dream without having to have met the prequisites that are required for a lucid dream,in other words,i wish to induce WILD without meeting the prequisites of WILD,
and Again you made something up in your mind somewhere which again i did by no means even come close to mentioning and that is that im asking how to fall asleep at any time,
nope,i never asked that,i was explaning to Travis-E that the reason i want to be able to lucid dream without having to sleep first is because you can't actually fall asleep conciously.so its an incosistent and limited way to enter the lucid dreaming worldspace.
i can't stand to fathom how you might have confused all these thingz with your own interpertation of them,but anyway it doesn't matter.
and no,there is no way to ''train'' yourself to fall asleep as you please,if there was,insomnia wouldn't be major problem in the US for the past deacde,do you know how much money goes into making insomnia pills? billionz.
i would be shocked,as well as very gratefull if instead of just ''thinking'' that its possible you actualy provided a method for it.

Your first question is basically asking for an idea how to enter LD once you are in a dream

i have again,not a single idea as to how you managed to reach that conclusion,i never once asked that question,this whole thread has been about Directly Entering A Lucid Dreaming State From A Waking State Therefore Bypassing Sleep,basically a WILD without having your body to fall asleep first.
it has exactly NOTHING to do with becoming lucid after alredy being in a dream,simply because dreams come after having alredy fallen asleep.

Please pay attention to what im saying im being Extreamly clear,i have no idea how your missing this im quoting myself :

what im trying to achive here,is NOT lucidity via SLEEP,