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      Waking Life The Movie ?

      Can someone tell me what’s so good about this movie? I rented it and have it for a week and it mostly sits on the shelf. It’s a cartoon. I feel I could make a better movie with my home movie camera. I’m not trying to just find debate. I really would like to know what the raving is and why so many give it a good rating.
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      Have you seen it through to the end? If not then its understandable that you dont like it, I wasn't a huge fan while watching most of it but once you finally find out at the end what the hell was happening you get why everyone likes it so much.

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      Re: Waking Life The Movie ?

      Originally posted by dreamtamer007
      It’s a cartoon.
      You say that as if being a cartoon makes anything less "good."
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      Originally posted by Ryden
      Have you seen it through to the end? If not then its understandable that you dont like it, I wasn't a huge fan while watching most of it but once you finally find out at the end what the hell was happening you get why everyone likes it so much.
      Ok I'll watch it again all the way threw a try to understand what I'm watching. I've seen Vanilla Sky about 15 times and will watch it again.
      Maybe cartoons do have less meaning for me. da
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      If you refer to it as "just cartoons", of course you're going to view it negatively. The animation together with the music sets this movie above the rest in the sense that the movie is a unique artistic expression that cannot be duplicated. I would find the movie rather stale if it was done like all other movies. Simply because it is made up of mostly conversations and theories. To interpret these discussions into a "hollywood" movie would be rather unsettling and I'm sure the movie would flop.

      The use of animation, unique animation at that, into this movie gives it a better feel for what some of the main messages of the movie are trying to convey. Waking life is an artistic masterpiece, and it differs greatly from a movie like Vanilla Sky. Dreamtamer, you say cartoons have less of a meaning for you? I say you do not appreciate art and the characteristics of beauty.
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      It's not a cartoon, it's rotoscoping, and it's done really effectively. The way everything moves is just about exactly what your mind wants, and after a while you hardly notice it. Everything pulsates and shifts neatly, often helping to tell the story. Not to mention the actual ideas and content in it are enough to keep your mind racing for days.

      BTW rotoscoping is basically coloring in film, althogh that probably isn't the best explanation of it.
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      Hi. I watched it once about a year ago, and I did not like it very much either. Dont get me wrong, I love the art style, and I LOVE lucid dreaming, this film just didnt "click" with me, thats all.
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      I’ll watch it a couple more times to see if it clicks with me. Thanks for the opinions guys.
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      It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who wasn't "blown away" by this movie.

      I bought it as soon as it was available on DVD because of all the great reviews and its connection to LDing and I've tried 3 times to watch it but each time, after about 30 minutes, I couldn't take anymore and I'd turn it off.

      Now that I know it's the ending that makes the movie, I will try to sit through it til the end.

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      I must say that movie was awesome I've just watched it again and there's a lot of interesting stuff and theories. I think it somewhat accurately captures the nature of a dream. All the wavering and changes are very dreamlistic (omg, I've invented a new term ).

      I see this movie as an aid and motivation to the lucid dreamer.

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      I agree, it didnt initially 'grab' me but i still enjoyed the movie as a whole. It's what got me into dreaming again and made me alot more concious about lucid dreaming which i do close to once a week now alot of the movie is random people talking about crazy ideas for several minutes. It makes you think about what the director was on when we wrote the script! Or else he just grabbed afew philosophy teachers from the local university. Great movie tho!!
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      Originally posted by Clairity
      It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who wasn't \"blown away\" by this movie.

      I bought it as soon as it was available on DVD because of all the great reviews and its connection to LDing and I've tried 3 times to watch it but each time, after about 30 minutes, I couldn't take anymore and I'd turn it off.

      Now that I know it's the ending that makes the movie, I will try to sit through it til the end.
      Yea, I think it’s the thrill of just finding anything on LDs that is alluring. Even Vanilla Sky could of been more specific to the subject of LDing. After spending a lot of time learning and trying out the sport of Hang Gliding I thought how little an adventure it is to the general public. Someone should make a movie about someone going on a Hang gliding adventure. Most people have no idea that a Hang Glider are capable of traveling up to 300 miles or more called cross-country. Oh yea, just like the birds that hunt out thermals. So it is with LDing. Someone needs to go to Hollywood with some new ideas in mind. Sorry to get wordy and I will take the time to watch the movie again tonight.
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      I find the animation aspect ironically makes the movie more realistic, that is, more like a real dream. If it were simply filmed it wouldn't have the same dream-like quality to it. In my dream things morph and look weird rather like they do in the film. I think they captured the appearance of digital clocks in dreams perfectly, or at least as perfectly as you can portray on a screen.
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      If you want to really understand try taking a gram of shrooms...well you can take as much as you want but I find that on higher doses I can never sit still in one place...but with a gram it really makes sense...

      It's about lding, sober thats probabbly the reason I liked it...
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      OKay, I am going to watch htis a second time, who knows, maby ill love it. It couldnt hurt to give it another try
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      The first time i watched this film i found the background movement almost nauseating, i cant remember being very impressed with it. This could of been something to do with me being overly tired though. The second time i watched it i enjoyed it alot more, and i agree with dreamtamer007, there's always something good about seeing anything with a lucid dreaming subject.

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      Ok I watched it again and paid attention to all of it. Yea I agree, it is dream like in more then one way. So now on to the next movie if I can get it. MirrorMask Block Buster said it wouldn’t be in until January. I have seen it listed on Line. I hope it is as good as it sounds. Of course nothing can be as good as a real LD.
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      Originally posted by Clairity
      Now that I know it's the ending that makes the movie, I will try to sit through it til the end.
      No, the ending does not make the movie. It just ends and does so very stupidly. I so rarely swear to God, but, I swear to God.

      Not, I'm being misleading. I actually swear to God quite often.

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      I was kind of disappointed about the end too. I just wasn't impressed by the idea that time is somehow just an illusion to make us forget about God or something, which just sounds absurd to me (I'm an atheist). If I were in charge of the film, he would have woken up to start life with a refreshing new wealth of wisdom.

      But besides that the movie was pretty cool.
      “The sleep is still in my eyes
      The dream is still in my head
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      And lie a while in bed
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      Not fade like all my dreams” —Rush

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