Possible to determine your time of death?

[Seeker]

Throughout history, there have been many cases in which people seem to know subconciously that their time on this earth is drawing to a close. I know a grandmother that suddenly got an urge to make a quilt for each of her children and grandchildren, seemingly out of the blue. She died shortly after completing them. There have been cases documented in which for some reason people suddenly feel the need to get their affairs in order and then shortly die. Often dayw or weeks before onset of a heart attack, people will experience mood shifts, becoming depressed or apprehensive. Is it possible that your subconcious knows that death is approaching and urges you to make changes? If so, would it be possible in a lucid dream to learn this from your subconcious? Does anyone feel brave enough to ask?

[ArthiswiftKvar]

I dont think it would work unless it's almost time, because the time you die will be effected greatly by your choices in life, and your mind cant predict that in any great dteail. Plus you'd have to factor in other things like random accidents. But no, I wouldnt like the feeling of knowing when I'd die, it would be so depresing!

[WindsOfPlague]

Thats really intresting. My friends mom works in a place where the take care of old folks until they die. I was talking to her about death, and she told me something pretty strange. She said that she would wake alot of her 'patients' up in the morning. She said right away they would tell her they were going to die today. That day, they would die of natural causes. She said its happened about 50or so times since she has worked there.

[eXistenZ]

I wouldn't dare to ask my dream about my "time"... Also because I think that there is no fixed time, but it depends on our choices and life style. As to those that rush completing something before dying, the opposite could be true: one complete something important and then feels so serene that s/he can die with no problem and no issues unsolved. The completion is signal to the body that it can die. Anyway, I believe that our body provides us with more signals than we consciously know. We are lucky if we are in tune with these signals and we can recover. eXistenZ

[WindsOfPlague]

Would knowing the time of your death change when you really die?

[jackonaut]

i know this can be seen often with animals. such as dogs waiting for an owner to return so they can die with them (The Odyssey), or cats dying peacefully in the lap of their owner. I really believe this to be true in humans also, mostly subconsciously.

[Ex Nine]

My mother works in a nursing home. She has been around the dying most of her life. She considers it quite ordinary that people need to be "ready" to die. They will not die unless they've literally said goodbye to their loved ones, in many cases, and have literally been told that it's okay to go. Or until they are actually with their loved ones, or even some artifacts. My great grandmother would never go anywhere without her purse. She was famous for having so many. She was very senile in her last years, and when she died she did so around some family members, and only after she had them go get her purse and her car keys.

[Tornado Joe]

Well, Seek, this is a pretty interesting topic. I can see there's mainly two approaches or ways of "accepting" an answer. 1) That we each have a pre destined "expiration date" embedded somewhere in our minds (or "souls" for some of you). If this is so, then yes, I suppose it would be possible to seek out this information via some deep trip into our (subconscious) selves. 2) That there is a special connection between the body and mind (which is really no secret) in which the mind has the ultimate "say" on when it will permanently "shut down". If this is the case, then this could explain some of those amazing survival stories we often hear about in the news. The mind which is not yet ready to go will simply keep up the fight of survival. Only question then is, do we GET permission from our mind to "let go", or do we GIVE permission to let go?

[Ex Nine]

Originally posted by Tornado Joe Only question then is, do we GET permission from our mind to \"let go\", or do we GIVE permission to let go? TJ, I think you're making a simple concept more confusing by that question. Within the question you pose a mind/consciousness dichotomy, which may be unnecessary.

[jackonaut]

that is an interesting question though...

[goku4ever]

sorry but I gotta say it. No fate but what we make. I love the Terminator movies

[kimpossible]

I have no fear of asking. The other side of it, that I don't think has been succinctly asked here, is "is it self-fulfilling"?

[justme]

ill try but dont except much not being haveing much lucid dreams lately but ill ask

[Ex Nine]

I was waiting for you or someone else to chime in with that one, Kim.

[OpheliaBlue]

ask me again when I'm about 30 seconds from actually dying, then I'll have a rough estimate nah serisouly, i'll ask in my next LD I so incredibly don't fear death at all...just pain

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue I so incredibly don't fear death at all...just pain Ditto, although, I'm getting better at that too. I take shots a hell of a lot better than I used to, that's for sure. I haven't pursued the exact nature of my own death, but in some dreams -- some lucid, or at least partially -- I have seen the deaths of others, sometimes to a very precise degree.

[irishcream]

Originally posted by Seeker Throughout history, there have been many cases in which people seem to know subconciously that their time on this earth is drawing to a close. *I know a grandmother that suddenly got an urge to make a quilt for each of her children and grandchildren, seemingly out of the blue. *She died shortly after completing them. There have been cases documented in which for some reason people suddenly feel the need to get their affairs in order and then shortly die. *Often dayw or weeks before onset of a heart attack, people will experience mood shifts, becoming depressed or apprehensive. Is it possible that your subconcious knows that death is approaching and urges you to make changes? If so, would it be possible in a lucid dream to learn this from your subconcious? *Does anyone feel brave enough to ask? Interesting topic seeker. I was kinda discussing this with my boyfriend the other night, warning him not to make me the centre of his world, because i could die tomorrow. He's like 'don't be silly!' I'm not. Call me morbid, but i just don't think i'm going to live to a ripe old age. It's like, more often than not recently, i find myself thinking about the stupidest things, like order of services and arrangements for my funeral! Regards elderly people 'knowing' I work in a nursing home. I've had experience of many patients who knew something was 'wrong'. they became distressed, agitated, and in some cases quite vocal. One lady continually shouted for help. Another one stressed and fussed the last two weeks of her life. Both died of heart failure. so maybe we do know when we are going to die. Maybe not to the minute, but i think you can have this sense of 'time running out' Probably why i don't waste time.

[WindsOfPlague]

Thats really weird. I have thought about it alot also... I can just can never see my self living a 'normal' life. I have had quite a few dreams about dying in a car accident, Im not sure why. but I'm almost certain it will happen.

[irishcream]

i always think it's going to be a heart attack that's going to get me. One massive one, where i just collapse. it's how i'd like to go. Nice and fast. although knowing my luck, being the fighter that i am, i will probably live to be a hundred!

[InTheMoment]

Originally posted by WindsOfPlague Thats really weird. I have thought about it alot also... I can just can never see my self living a 'normal' life. I have had quite a few dreams about dying in a car accident, Im not sure why. but I'm almost certain it will happen. I have this strong feeling that I will die of (some form) cancer at the age of 76.

[WindsOfPlague]

we are all dying to live when in reality we are living to die

[PhowaBoy]

Many years ago, I had met a girl through a friend who needed someone to accompany her to a dinner (she later became my girlfriend of 2 years). At dinner, we sat at a round table with her parents, and a few others. A few days later, her father died of a heart attack. Only a week before, he had arranged insurance to pay off the mortgage for thier house, renewed his life insurance, and arrange his will. My ex-girlfriends sister was asleep when her father died, and dreamt that her father had come to her in her dream and said, "tell your mother I love her". A year later, their mom remarried the man sitting next to her at the round table from the dinner I attended (where he had met her for the first time). It seems as though once their father saw that everything was in order and taken care of, he was able to die.... or something like that. From another angle, the Mahayana Buddhists believe that the time of death is related to the internal energy winds. During the death process, the winds disolve and leave the body (such as the fire wind leaves and the body becomes cold, the water wind leaves and the body becomes dry, and the wind wind leaves, and the breathing stops, until the life supporting wind leaves and the very subtle mind leaves from the body). Perhaps we have some sort of recognition of when the dying process begins (if we are in tune with it). It's explained better in a book called "Living Meaningfully - Dying Joyfully" by Kelsang Gyatso Rinpoche (from Tharpa.com) if you're interested.

[Ev]

Originally posted by Seeker Throughout history, there have been many cases in which people seem to know subconciously that their time on this earth is drawing to a close. *I know a grandmother that suddenly got an urge to make a quilt for each of her children and grandchildren, seemingly out of the blue. *She died shortly after completing them. There have been cases documented in which for some reason people suddenly feel the need to get their affairs in order and then shortly die. *Often dayw or weeks before onset of a heart attack, people will experience mood shifts, becoming depressed or apprehensive. Is it possible that your subconcious knows that death is approaching and urges you to make changes? If so, would it be possible in a lucid dream to learn this from your subconcious? *Does anyone feel brave enough to ask? I will ask about it once I establish a contact with my subconscious. Funny thing is: 3 days ago I had a dream where I actually thought I was dead. It was just out of a blue. I was walking down a hallway and I saw all my friends, they bid goodbye to me. Then I got a really strong urge to go to the 5th floor. Once I finally got there I met some entity that I felt/knew as my subconscious or my mortality. It told me something important and hurried away. I've even repeated it to myself and became lucid. But I cant remember what it was, all I have left is a lingering sense of discovery . The dream became incredibly vivid, even epic in feeling.... I felt like I've finally jumped into another life or something. Well, I must say that was extremely weird. Let's see if I will die any time soon

[Oneironaut Zero]

I haven't had dreams about dying since I was little. Give or take a few scattered through the years that I can hardly remember. About a month and change ago, I had the most intense dream I've probably ever had. It started off with me on a plane, talking to the person sitting next to me. The plane was fit for about 50 people, and was filled. Beginning to wonder where the plane was headed, I asked the person next to me. They told me that it was a plane to heaven, and everyone on board, including myself, was dead. Shocked and doubtful, I asked how this could be, and the passenger told me that I had died in my sleep the night before, and was on my way to heaven. I will never forget the sinking feeling that gave me. The only thing I could think of was how this could not be real, and how I had to get out of here (wherever Here was.) Suddenly, I woke up in my bed, staring at my ceiling, in awe of the disturbing dream of my own post-death that I'd just had. Then, rolling over in bed, I looked over and saw my own body! I was a spirit laying beside the body of mine that had died in its sleep (according to the dream char I was talking to, ealier.) My parents came into the room and grieved horrifically over me, while I could do nothing but stand beside them as a spirt and watch, sadly. Then I finally woke up from this terrible False Awakening, shaking. Recently, my father died in his sleep while both my mom and I were home. He was 44 years old, and it doesn't seem like there was an immediate cause of death, as of yet, we are still waiting for toxicology reports. I feel as if it were a month, to the day, between the dream and my dad's death, however I can't be certain because FOR SOME UNKNOWN DAMNED REASON I didn't log the dream. (I had no computer at the time, but I could SWEAR that I wrote it down on paper!!) Funny that it was a dream that left me shook-up for the entire day, and I have no record of it happening, except for describing it to someone in another post. Ironically, the Original Post was started the night before I remember having the dream, which was exactly one month before my dad died, but had no computer when I had the dream, and didn't see the topic until about 10 days afterward, which is when I replied, describing the dream and another dream I had about death within the same few-weeks span. I'm not saying it is all related, but the fact that I had such a soul-shattering dream about dying in my sleep at home and both parents finding me, about one month before my dad died in his sleep at home and we both found Him bothers me. Especially since I happen to have no record whatsoever of the dream except for explaining it to someone a few days after. My best friend remembers me text messaging him about it, the day after the dream, but I've gone through my sent text messages all the way back through the beginning of July, and have found no trace of it.