Thread: Induction before sleep

Originally posted by StickFigure
there are all these techniques to induce lucid dreaming AFTER youve already slept for some time. what if I want to induce a LD the FIRST time I go to sleep? I know it is possable for a WILD to work that way but what about incubation? how often does a WILD actually work like this?In a WILD your supposed to actualy watch the images go by, right? like a movie.

It seems you don't dream much in the first hours of going to sleep. This is probably why there's more techniques available for the "after-hours."

And about that hypnagogic imagery, I don't think you're supposed to focus in on it too much. From my understanding it's designed to hypnotise you and put you to sleep. So if you get too involed with it, you'll just fall asleep. Let the images go by, while remaining completely relaxed and keeping your mind awake (ie, try counting, doing math, focus on your breathing, etcetera).

Before you know it, you'll be in a lucid dream! Just don't let your mind wander.

Hope this helps,

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You do not want to Lucid dream right when you go to sleep. First of all, when you go to sleep you do not reach REM normlay in the cycle when you first are going to bed. It back tracks right before REM starts, and then repeats, finfaly going to REM. Secondly, when ti reacher REM it only stays there for 10 minuets, and then back down the cycle. So Even if you some how managed to go lucid after a full cycle in a snece ebacse REM isn't reached for a while after sleep, then you'd only have 10 minuets to be Lucid. THEN you have to remember that tiny dream all through the night to remebr it in the morning. SO ti is unlikely that you would remerb a few seconds of Lucidity you had 8 hours ago. hehe, so just do Reality checks and WBTBs.

Originally posted by Barbizzle
So Even if you some how managed to go lucid after a feull cycle in a snece ebacse REM isnt reached for a while after sleep, then you'd only have 10 mineuts to be Lucid. *THEN *you have to rememebr that tiny dream all through the night to remebr it in the mornign. *SO ti is unlikely that you woudl remerb a few seconds of Lucidity you had 8 hours ago.

good point

I read an article about using the hypnogogic state to induce lucidity...I'll see if I can find it.

Personally, I'm not sure I'd even want to attempt it. If I'm going to have a scary night time experience, it's going to be a hypnogogic hallucination--I have never had a pleasant one that I remember. I always have visions of dark figures in my room, or of being enclosed in darkness, or hearing screams...god, it's awful. It's the reason I learned to daydream myself to sleep--if I'm in control of the visions leading up to falling asleep, I'm less likely to have the ones that scare me.

I think your just a scaredy cat

Well, thanks for the self-esteem boost, pal.

Originally posted by poeticDreamer
I read an article about using the hypnogogic state to induce lucidity...I'll see if I can find it.

Personally, I'm not sure I'd even want to attempt it. *If I'm going to have a scary night time experience, it's going to be a hypnogogic hallucination--I have never had a pleasant one that I remember. *I always have visions of dark figures in my room, or of being enclosed in darkness, or hearing screams...god, it's awful. *It's the reason I learned to daydream myself to sleep--if I'm in control of the visions leading up to falling asleep, I'm less likely to have the ones that scare me.

i think u got it kinda mixed up there
its a hypnopompic state which is the transition state of semiconsciousness between sleeping and waking.
And the hypnagogic state is that state between being awake and falling asleep. both of these for some people, this is a time of visual and auditory hallucination.

Nightmares I think can be easily controlled as long as you know you are in control in your dreams. Through my research and experience nightmares have a lot to do with intrapersonal communication (how you communicate within to urself). All your fears and insecurities come to life. People who have a lot of nightmares I think have poor self esteem, traumatic experiences they can't get out of their head, find it hard to control their feelings, and are conservative ppl in general.
I used to walk around saying prayers to myself to boost what attributes of my personality I wanted boosted.

For example I used to say:
"I am confident, I am dashing, I am daring, and I am bold."
or
"Recall, reality check, stay lucid" <--- really helped me in my 1st lucid dream

just say them over and over to urself....u begin to carve it into your deep unconsciousness and you do become what you desire to become.



"Whatever the mind of man can conceive, and believe, it can achieve"
--Napoleon Hill