Hi there I'm new to the forum. Basically, in August of this year (2005) I learned about astral projection after first hearing about remote viewing on Coast to Coast AM. The same night I learned about astral projection, I stumbled upon lucid dreaming.

Anyway, been trying to do both AP and LD, besides a few brief instances of success and alot of time spent listening to Brainwave presets, I haven't really been able to do either.

Learned about Salvia back in September, I was considering using a drug to induce AP.

Fellow employee of mine told me that salvia is legal here in Toronto. So I took a trip to the Toronto Hemp store, but they only had 1 gram of 25X for $60.00. I did some research on it before I asked for it and thought that beginning on 25X might be a little extreme. Those guys at the Toronto Hemp store told me about another place in Toronto which sells 1 gram of 10X extract leaves of salvia for $35.00. So I bought the 1 gram of 10X.

Had this stuff on me for nearly two weeks, finally decided to smoke it on Thursday.

Okay this is how I smoked it, first I put about 0.1 gram in my pipe then smoked that and held it in for about 10 to 15 seconds. Nothing happened no hallucinations nothing. So I continually got up over the next hour adding more into the pipe and smoking it. By the end of the hour I smoked at least half of the gram and since I was simple experiencing nothing to different from any of my marijuana high's, I just called it a night or so I thought. The night then got worse because I couldn't sleep at all. For some reason I went through a terrible bout of insomnia even after taking a pill of melatonin. I ended up watching all of Carlito's Way and got maybe an hour and a half of dreamless sleep before going to work.

So what I wanted to know from you guys is how much did you smoke at a time? How long did you hold the smoke in for? What times( X ) extract did you use? I figure since the 10X didn't work that I would go onto to the 25X.

Oh, by the way I did not use a water bong, I just used a pipe that I usually smoke marijuana in, I thought I be more effected by the salvia if I just took it in by itself.

One more thing, I blazed some weed during the four days before smoking the salvia. This might factor in because I usually only smoke weed 1-3 a month (since July of 2005) and I usually on take maybe 7-9 puffs from my pipe. But I believe I am going to quit smoking week for good next week so I'm just smoking alot right now. I was in the hospital for two week during April with a collapsed lung, so that is the main reason I'm going to stop blazing marijuana.

Sorry I went on quite a big rant. Please don't be upset. I really would appreaciate it if those of you who have used salvia previously offered answers to my question. Thanks!!!