Salvia Questions

[Rav]

Hi there I'm new to the forum. Basically, in August of this year (2005) I learned about astral projection after first hearing about remote viewing on Coast to Coast AM. The same night I learned about astral projection, I stumbled upon lucid dreaming. Anyway, been trying to do both AP and LD, besides a few brief instances of success and alot of time spent listening to Brainwave presets, I haven't really been able to do either. Learned about Salvia back in September, I was considering using a drug to induce AP. Fellow employee of mine told me that salvia is legal here in Toronto. So I took a trip to the Toronto Hemp store, but they only had 1 gram of 25X for $60.00. I did some research on it before I asked for it and thought that beginning on 25X might be a little extreme. Those guys at the Toronto Hemp store told me about another place in Toronto which sells 1 gram of 10X extract leaves of salvia for $35.00. So I bought the 1 gram of 10X. Had this stuff on me for nearly two weeks, finally decided to smoke it on Thursday. Okay this is how I smoked it, first I put about 0.1 gram in my pipe then smoked that and held it in for about 10 to 15 seconds. Nothing happened no hallucinations nothing. So I continually got up over the next hour adding more into the pipe and smoking it. By the end of the hour I smoked at least half of the gram and since I was simple experiencing nothing to different from any of my marijuana high's, I just called it a night or so I thought. The night then got worse because I couldn't sleep at all. For some reason I went through a terrible bout of insomnia even after taking a pill of melatonin. I ended up watching all of Carlito's Way and got maybe an hour and a half of dreamless sleep before going to work. So what I wanted to know from you guys is how much did you smoke at a time? How long did you hold the smoke in for? What times( X ) extract did you use? I figure since the 10X didn't work that I would go onto to the 25X. Oh, by the way I did not use a water bong, I just used a pipe that I usually smoke marijuana in, I thought I be more effected by the salvia if I just took it in by itself. One more thing, I blazed some weed during the four days before smoking the salvia. This might factor in because I usually only smoke weed 1-3 a month (since July of 2005) and I usually on take maybe 7-9 puffs from my pipe. But I believe I am going to quit smoking week for good next week so I'm just smoking alot right now. I was in the hospital for two week during April with a collapsed lung, so that is the main reason I'm going to stop blazing marijuana. Sorry I went on quite a big rant. Please don't be upset. I really would appreaciate it if those of you who have used salvia previously offered answers to my question. Thanks!!!

[RandomThoughT78]

dude i've done that salvia...it doesn't really do much...out of the 10 trials i took...it made me see hallucinations only one time.It give you this uncomfortable tingle in your back that is just shitty....take it from don't do that shit again...and if you do...when you pack your bowl...pack as much in the bowl as you can...then hold it in for atlest 20 secs... the time i did hallucinate...Everything was made of legos....i smoked a whole Gram of 10 times.i thought i was tripping for 20 mins....and i was only tripping for less than 3 mins it sucks cause sometimes you can't rmemeber it...

[OldSouthPremium]

I smoked salvia last week. Everything was swirling pink and blue and it felt like an acid carnival. I just smoked a pretty good sized pipe bowl in 1 hit and held it on 'till i couldn't anymore. It was crazy. I had some pretty weird dreams that night. Really vivid and weird. I was also drunk when I smoked the salvia, took about 10 shots of vodka over a period. Then we got baked after.

[RandomThoughT78]

if yall wanna tripp and see thing that bad...do shrooms or some "dream smoke"

[wombing]

salvia can be a very potent hallucinogenic. i wouldn't smoke anything stronger than 10x until you've experienced a full blown high with that. i've smoked it approximately ten separate times. the first handful i didn't really feel any effects. the key thing to remember is its a very fragile substance-meaning, the same dosage can do nothing under one circumstance, and take you to a parallel universe in different circumstances. i've had friends (all experienced psychonauts) smoke 10x extract and react completely differently. some didn't feel a thing. one buddy simply fell to his knees for five seconds before standing up completely fine. another had the most intense trip of his life (above and beyond acid trips,etc). i've found to get the effects, it helps to do the following. 1. use a glass bong (preferably with a tiny bit of water.) if you use a pipe, chances are it won't work very well at all. 2. smoke 1, or 2 bowls (3 at the most in one night). smoking copious amounts spread over the entire night won't increase your chances of having a trip. if anything, they will decrease them, and you will feel gross, or be unable to sleep well (like happened to you). 3. setting- very important! optimally, do it in a comfortable room, in a reclining chair, or on a bed. if you actually feel its effects, you almost certainly will want to lie down comfortably, in a quiet place. this isn't a party drug, and if you try it in a loud, busy place you won't see what it can do. load a quarter gram of 10x extract into a glass bong (never a pipe). in order for saliva to take effect, it must stay in the lungs long enough to be absorbed fully. (bearing in mind you've had a collapsed lung, i would wait until it is fully healed, or perhaps never bother smoking salivia at all.) use a torch lighter preferably and light the bowl. fill the chamber with thick smoke and cover the top. take two deep breathes, fully inflating your lungs. breathe out completely, and breathe in a tiny bit of air before you pull on the bong. fill your lungs well (lighting the bowl as you go if neccessary). and now, the most important part....HOLD IT IN! as i said, it takes longer to absorb salivia than cannabis or other smokables. its not the quantity of salivia smoked over a prolonged time period that will get effects, but concentrated quality held in at one time. hold it in as long as possible, and release. this should almost certainly work, in which case lie back, close your eyes (i usually use a dark room) and calmly allow it to work its magic. if it almost works, repeat for one more bowl. (it helps to have someone you trust there to reload the bowl if neccessary, and take the hot bong when you are done with it. if not have a second bowl ready before you start smoking, in order to cut down on the time between hits). use this method, and you are almost guaranteed to have one of the most intense trips of your life. salvia isn't for everybody. if you try to abuse her, she will withhold her effects, or give you more than you bargained for. only try it ina good frame of mind, in a peaceful setting. make sure you have healthy lungs first though good luck.

[kajizabam]

ive done salvia like 10 times, and i have never hallucinated. Just like random thought said i felt this weird feeling on my back. I felt like i was getting pulled down to the ground. A few of my friends actually saw things, and described seeing things as patterns and distorted colors. THe best way and only way to smoke sal is by using a bong.

[RandomThoughT78]

yeah he's right the time i freaked out was when i smoked it out of a bong...