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    1. 01-01-2006 12:04 AM #1
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      Two phenomenons

      I had two experiences during my sleep last night which I would refer to as phenomenons.

      Firstly, I’ll introduce the possibility of injected false memories in dreams. This presented itself in two separate dreams last night:

      Back in school again [...] I then sat down next to S and noticed that he got a new purse from what he had last semester. I acknowledge it, “I see you have a new purse,” which I assume he got it for Christmas. I go look in his purse and it is full of pens and pencils. [...]

      [...] We have some company over. I go into the living room to get my silver trays. I notice that L is there, who gave me the trays last Christmas. I acknowledge that I still use the trays. [...]

      In the first dream snippet, I was quite convinced that S owned a purse previously and now has a new one. S obviously does not own a purse (as far as I know). In the second, when I saw L, I immediately remembered that she gave me the trays last Christmas, when in waking life I don’t even own silver trays.

      Secondly, something else quite interesting happened last night. I recall quite vividly thinking to myself during a dream, “I know I’m experiencing a dream right now. If there was only some way I could tell myself that...” The thoughts seemed to originate outside the dream, as if in my waking conscious, while I was watching my dream. I was consciously trying to figure out how I could tell my “dream mind” that I was in a dream. My mind set existed more in my thoughts, which likely weren’t operating at full capacity, than in the dream which was happening.

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    2. 01-01-2006 12:21 AM #2
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      yeah those dream memories are really weird things, by "injected" do you mean you knowing put those memories into your head in the waking state or they just happened in the dream
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      Originally posted by BillyBob_001
      yeah those dream memories are really weird things, by \"injected\" do you mean you knowing put those memories into your head in the waking state or they just happened in the dream
      Good question.!

      Your subconscious fights to maintain control of a dream. So it will do nothing short of making you interpret "false " memories.
      This is why practice in the waking life is a vital role in becoming lucid. Dream signs and reality checks!
      You must become aware of the fact that you are dreaming.
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    4. 01-01-2006 06:49 PM #4
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      Originally posted by BillyBob_001
      yeah those dream memories are really weird things, by \"injected\" do you mean you knowing put those memories into your head in the waking state or they just happened in the dream
      Strictly in the dream. I never allow dreams to create false memories that affect my waking life. I always identify them as dream-injected false memories immediately.

      Only after reviewing my dreams, upon waking up, in traditional reverse-order to collect idea assortment then forward-order to build plot did I realize that I had these false memories during the dreams.

      I suspect this is how such false memories that affect waking life may present themselves. Of course this would only affect those that do not acknowledge dream experiences as dreams and occurrences that didn't take place in waking life.

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