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      Lucid Dreaming & Marijuana

      What are people's experiences with this? Good, Bad?

      I am also curious to as if it would help induce WILD's as well?


      Anyone have any experience, or are there any connections between the two?


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      This does not help at all, in fact it is pretty bad. Will ruin your recall and make it much harder to have lucid dreams. I don't think it has any long term effects, only the night after u have smoked.

      Don't stop smoking weed!
      Just don't smoke it to have lucids!

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      Originally posted by MAXxyz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MAXxyz)</div>
      This does not help at all, in fact it is pretty bad. Will ruin your recall and make it much harder to have lucid dreams. I don't think it has any long term effects, only the night after u have smoked.[/b]
      Yeah, it really impairs your recall. And if you get into the habit of smoking multiple times daily, it will affect your recall beyond just the night after smoking. Don't get me wrong, you can still recall a little, but it's definitely a hindrance.
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      Don't stop smoking weed! *
      Just don't smoke it to have lucids!
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      heh, for me it doesn't make any effects on dream recall. Maybe you should try for yourself, and see what happens, now for wild, It is kind of helpful to get relaxed, it really clears your mind, and it takes you to HI really fast, the problem I see with it is to stay focused, being high you would mostly have a hard time trying to keep focus . Thats my personal expirience with it, but if for others it ruins recall, then maybe you should see what effect it has on you, if its bad, then don't, if its normal, then do . And like they said, theres no need to stop using
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      Good question.

      By coïncidence just yesterday for the first time I was completely baked. I ate some weed-peanutbutter-baked-crackes. (Heating is needed to activate the THC and the fat absorbs it so it gets in your system better).

      Anyway, I was just about tripping. I felt like I allmost had a Out Of body experience... so weird.

      I went to bed still rather stoned.

      No DR. No LDs. Nothing ^___^

      But that doesn't say anything. Maybe I would try again.

      BTW: eating weed lasts 5-6 hours, smoking only 15-30 minutes or something... if you wanna trip in your dreams, eat it.
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      unfortunately i have found it impossible to recall dreams whilst blazing.

      i agree that it helps relax me physically. also, hypnagogic imagery comes much easier, and is more vivid. however, i find it too difficult to maintain concentration long enough to WILD.


      my advice would be to keep a dream journal and smoke as per usual for a couple weeks. then stop smoking, and keep writing down your dreams. it'll be quite obvious whether or not it affects you.

      i have come to the point where i have limited myself to smoking once a week at the most. it was a hard choice, but lucid dreaming has proven to be just as good (if not better).
      and when i do smoke, it's way better because its not an everyday thing.


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      Well...needless to say when I go to bed blazed, I pass the hell out. Lol. I hardly remember my dreams after toking up before bed. So much so, that I've, recently, stopped chiefing before sleep, and turned to smoking a little Calea Zacatechichi, which I've recently gotten into. The HI it gives you is incredible and dreams seem much more vivid and longer lasting. It seems like it takes a few times smoking it before it has much of an effect, but after experimenting with it for about 2 months, I would recommend it to anyone. 8)
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      Originally posted by Neruo
      Good question.

      By coïncidence just yesterday for the first time I was completely baked. I ate some weed-peanutbutter-baked-crackes. (Heating is needed to activate the THC and the fat absorbs it so it gets in your system better).

      Anyway, I was just about tripping. I felt like I allmost had a Out Of body experience... so weird.

      I went to bed still rather stoned.

      No DR. No LDs. Nothing ^___^

      But that doesn't say anything. Maybe I would try again.

      BTW: eating weed lasts 5-6 hours, smoking only 15-30 minutes or something... if you wanna trip in your dreams, eat it.
      mmm smoking big quantities will last arround 2 hours, and im not sure about the rest but eatint it gives me a very very mild trip, i can barely feel it (and yes cooked in brownies or different muffing thingies)
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      Originally posted by Baal
      mmm smoking big quantities will last arround 2 hours, and im not sure about the rest but eatint it gives me a very very mild trip, i can barely feel it (and yes cooked in brownies or different muffing thingies)
      Eating it is a pretty unreliable way to get high. It depends greatly on the contents of your stomach- not just how much is in it, but what. I've eaten it many times, and felt effects ranging from "a mild buzz" to "stoned out of my mind," and nearly everything in between. I don't eat it anymore; smoking works the same every time

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      I LOVE THE CHEBA

      DING- marijuana afftects the memory

      LOL man im glad that you like smoking chron, it opens your mind exponentially, making you smarter i think, not in school persay, but about life. but you will never remember your dreams if you smoke up right before you pass out. your brains fucking blazed man he doesn't want to make the effort to remember your dreams. I used to smoke like a half-q every day and im telling you it won't help you LD.
      The trick is to combine your waking rational abilities with the infinite possibilities of your dreams. Because, if you can do that, you can do anything.

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      Re: I LOVE THE CHEBA

      Originally posted by Little Red
      DING- marijuana afftects the memory

      LOL man im glad that you like smoking chron, it opens your mind exponentially, making you smarter i think, not in school persay, but about life. but you will never remember your dreams if you smoke up right before you pass out. your brains fucking blazed man he doesn't want to make the effort to remember your dreams. I used to smoke like a half-q every day and im telling you it won't help you LD.
      Marijuana can slow down brain growth as well as make it much less active then when not smoking marijuana. It makes you "smarter about life" because you get more creative from it and can get all philosophical from it... but I say leave that to your dreams (ask someone a question in a dream... it makes good thought stuff), much cheaper and less illegal

      Anyways, smoking greatly increases the amount of melatonin in your brain so technically you should get much more vivid dreams...

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      wow..

      Just wow.. You all make me sick..

      Especially the retard who says "It makes you smarter, About life".

      Smoking PERIOD kills you, smoking weed, getting high, and anything else like that is just plain stupid. If you want to ruin your life, get high, and become stupid as a result of brain degration, then be my guest.

      Lucid dreaming is such a tauntingly simple thing to attain...

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      Re: wow..

      Originally posted by TheEnergyIsAroundUs
      Just wow.. You all make me sick..

      Especially the retard who says \"It makes you smarter, About life\".

      Smoking PERIOD kills you, smoking weed, getting high, and anything else like that is just plain stupid. If you want to ruin your life, get high, and become stupid as a result of brain degration, then be my guest.
      Don't nock it till you try it, or KNOW something about it!!!! Weed DOES NOT KILL YOU!!!
      Here and there...

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      Re: wow..

      Originally posted by Sortilegio

      Don't nock it till you try it, or KNOW something about it!!!! Weed DOES NOT KILL YOU!!!
      Let's stop this before it starts. It's not relevant.

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      i love reading posts from misinformed ignorant people. When I smoke I get high for 15-30 minutes or something, and then I die. It's a blast, you should all try it!

      Unfortunately, smoking does effect recall. Definitely sucks for those of us who enjoy a nice smoke at night, and enjoy a nice Lucid Dream as well.

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      Re: wow..

      Originally posted by TheEnergyIsAroundUs
      Just wow.. You all make me sick..

      Especially the retard who says \"It makes you smarter, About life\".

      Smoking PERIOD kills you, smoking weed, getting high, and anything else like that is just plain stupid. If you want to ruin your life, get high, and become stupid as a result of brain degration, then be my guest.
      "degradation" is the correct spelling. and you are correct if you imply that smoking affects mental performance, smoking any substance will do that.

      however, ingesting cannabis orally appears to cause no lasting damage (or smoking for that matter, if one accounts for the minimal harm caused by the act of smoking itself). and other substances including psilocybin mushrooms, salvia divinorum, datura, etc etc have been used for millenia as means to expand consciousness, without evidence of any lasting, adverse effects.

      i used to smoke up multiple times each and every day. i have done mushrooms close to a hundred times, and had some of my more meaningful, profound epiphanies as a result of using them in an informed manner. two nights ago being the most recent.

      do you wish to call me stupid? i am tempted to label you ignorant for lumping many things you apparently have never experienced under the umbrella of 'getting high'.

      mushrooms are my sacrament. yet i understand that you may have had friends or family suffer painful experiences due to irresponsible drug use. or perhaps you merely fear the unknown.

      either way, you should dedicate your time to showing that those who are sober live more vibrant, meaningful lives, rather than fly off the handle insulting people you have never met, and do not understand

      peace and love


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      potheads

      Wow what a row we have going here!

      Smoking weed impairs your ability to think. The THC molecule hates water and loves fat. It binds to a fatty substance which coats the nerves that run between your axons and dendrites (sender and reciever brain cells.) This coating acts as a cunductor for impulses to travel better along the nerve. The THC fouls the pathway. This disruption is like the passing of a charge along a faulty spark plug wire, the charge may go through, but without the full effect.

      Now I'm not sure what effect this has on your dreams but I will continue to maintain that it simply is not benificial to your thought processes.

      There it is, my two cents.

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      Originally posted by TheEnergyIsAroundUs
      Just wow.. You all make me sick..

      Especially the retard who says \"It makes you smarter, About life\".

      Smoking PERIOD kills you, smoking weed, getting high, and anything else like that is just plain stupid. If you want to ruin your life, get high, and become stupid as a result of brain degration, then be my guest.
      lol you are so stupid.

      You ever drink beer? Alcohol has every symptom of a hard drug. It's physically addictive, weed is not. It's mentally addictive, weed is way way less mentally addictive. Alot of alcohol kills your brain cells and your entire body. Weed is hardly bad for your body at all. I just hate the smoking part. If you eat it it does Nothing that is worse for you body then polluted air.

      I find it fun that so many people that are extremely anti-weed do drink themselves. Like alot of religious people.

      Weed is more healthy then alcohol. PERIOD

      And even alcohol is fun in small doses. Weed isn't fucking herione you brainwashed poor kid.

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      Anyone here did schrooms? I have never... I wonder what THAT does with your dreams ^_^
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      Most people know that weed is not a "deadly" drug per se. But it's not "completely harmless." I suppose the only reason why cigarretes are legal and marijuana is not is because marijuana impairs your abilitity to think so it is very dangerous when driving and it slows down your brain growth and the such. Cigs are bad for your body not necessarily your mind.

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      Weed, when used moderately, is hardly "dangerous." Even when used excessively, it depends on your philosophy of life. If you're not assaulting your brain with ridiculous amounts of bud day in and day out, the long-term effects should limit themselves considerably. You might not be the 'quickest sprinter off the line' but you'll more than likely gain an insight and open-minded perspective throughout life that a lot of straight-edge intellectuals severely lack.
      It is demonized because the government has nothing to gain by legalizing it. You think the system is going to legalize, price, and tax weed, when people will be able to go right down to Smoke-Dogg's house at the end of the block and pick up a sack for half the price? Hell no.
      They tell you about the dangers of weed and then run 7 consecutive 45 second commercial spots for Budweiser and Mich Light, while at the same time admitting that alcohol tends to cause depression, anger, violence, etc. Compare the number of weed related deaths, accidents, and over-all negative events with those caused by, or connected to, alcohol. The only weed-related jail convictions I can think of are those caused by possessing weed because it's illegal, selling it, cause it's illegal, growing it, cause it's illegal, driving under the influence of it (which should be common sense not to do, anyway) etc. etc. This isn't to say it has never been connected to a crime other than those mentioned, but the fact that people bad-mouth weed and weed smokers, especially when they think drinking is cool because it's legal and socially acceptable, gets on my nerves.
      But I doubt too many non-smokers will see my point until they are wound-up and miserable old geezers looking back on life and wishing they wouldn't have wasted theirs' by taking themselves so seriously.

      Anyway, that's a little off topic, but since people decided to bomb a thread that asked for mj effects on lucid dreams with the anti-weed propaganda that nobody asked for, I felt inclined to respond.

      Blaze on.
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      Originally posted by ataraxis
      I suppose the only reason why cigarretes are legal and marijuana is not is because marijuana impairs your abilitity to think so it is very dangerous when driving and it slows down your brain growth and the such. Cigs are bad for your body not necessarily your mind.

      not the fact that anybody can grow weed, so taxing it is pointless?

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      I honestly dont think marijuana is Good for you, but I also dont think it's bad for you. It can lean to one side or the other depending on the person and his/her surroundings. If you got a job and want to come home relax and smoke a bowl, fine, but If your the kid who dropped out of school lives with his mom and does Not have a job, well I wouldnt call it "harmless" for Him. And for the dream recall It's never been benificial for me, although I do like the Mild techniqe while being high. (sometimes not on purpose)

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      TheEnergyIsAroundUs wrote: Just wow.. You all make me sick..

      Especially the retard who says "It makes you smarter, About life".

      Smoking PERIOD kills you, smoking weed, getting high, and anything else like that is just plain stupid. If you want to ruin your life, get high, and become stupid as a result of brain degration, then be my guest.

      sorry if i didn't quote properly i don't know how

      alrite man i'd first like to call you an asshole, sorry but that's just the way i feel. you are saying marijuana is bad, calling me stupid. i'm a fifteen year old kid and im probably smarter than you about any aspect of life. You call it a waste of time, it kills you, wrecks your mind. why do you think that. because someone in parliament decided it was bad, he didn't like it so there for, if you do it you are a criminal. yet drinking is legal. owning a gun is legal. get your fucking head out of your ass and realize that you are being told what to think. Go to school, get out of school, and get a well paying job. because everyone knows if you don't make that almighty dollar you are a failure. well in my perspective anyone who follows this corporate slave state is a failure, and i refuse to do it. i would much rather lose 4 points off of my IQ and smoke weed, and live my own life. then be told what to do and think. Same goes for acid. i know it's bad but it is mindblowing how much you can learn about yourself while on it. i know i probably sound like an idiot to all of you, but this is just my perspective, and i know im being a hipocrit for telling this man what he believes is wrong, but you just don'y criticise peoples way of life and i won't critisize yours

      sry for rambling on. thnx for your patience
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      Originally posted by Little Red+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Little Red)</div>
      i'm a fifteen year old kid and im probably smarter than you about any aspect of life.[/b]
      Hot damn, the true mantra of every 15 year old (and some 23 year olds too)

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      TheEnergyIsAroundUs wrote: Just wow.. You all make me sick..

      Especially the retard who says \"It makes you smarter, About life\".

      Smoking PERIOD kills you, smoking weed, getting high, and anything else like that is just plain stupid. If you want to ruin your life, get high, and become stupid as a result of brain degration, then be my guest.
      sorry if i didn't quote properly i don't know how
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      alrite man i'd first like to call you an asshole, sorry but that's just the way i feel. you are saying marijuana is bad, calling me stupid. i'm a fifteen year old kid and im probably smarter than you about any aspect of life.
      You sound like an idiot. Just because you are a 15 year old rebel doesn't mean you are enlightened more than the rest of us.
      You call it a waste of time, it kills you, wrecks your mind. why do you think that. because someone in parliament decided it was bad, he didn't like it so there for, if you do it you are a criminal. yet drinking is legal. owning a gun is legal. get your fucking head out of your ass and realize that you are being told what to think. Go to school, get out of school, and get a well paying job. because everyone knows if you don't make that almighty dollar you are a failure. well in my perspective anyone who follows this corporate slave state is a failure, and i refuse to do it.
      I like your perception of things... talking about who's being told what to think, I highly doubt those are \"your\" opinions. Especially how you completely generalize that everything \"the man\" tells you is wrong. About that last statement... by the time you are a homeless man mooching sandwiches off old ladies you might be thinking \"I wish I followed this corporate slave state...\"
      i would much rather lose 4 points off of my IQ and smoke weed, and live my own life. then be told what to do and think. Same goes for acid. i know it's bad but it is mindblowing how much you can learn about yourself while on it.
      It's not about losing 4 points... more like rendering yourself an idiot. And anyways, acid IS pretty terrible for you, even if weed isn't. You'd probably find you learn a lot more about yourself if you just \"think.\"
      i know i probably sound like an idiot to all of you, but this is just my perspective, and i know im being a hipocrit for telling this man what he believes is wrong, but you just don'y criticise peoples way of life and i won't critisize yours

      sry for rambling on. thnx for your patience
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      Yeah, you really do sound like an idiot...

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