Thread: How Does One Get Rid Of Lucid Dreams - Newbie

Originally Posted by melindak

Hello all. I googled lucid dreams and this forum came up. I read through some of your lucid dreams post and saw that many of you are trying to achieve this. However I have had lucid dreams every single night during every dream for the past 25 years and I want out lol!!!! I actually have an appointment with a sleep specialist on Monday. Because I remember every single dream and can easily control them, my dreams have started trying to "trick" me into making me believe they are real. This has created more realistic dreams which has me confused during the day whether something that happend, happend for real or did I dream it. I feel like I'm living in a fog of reality and have major dejavu at least once a week. Soemtime the dejavu is so strong that I know what is going to happend before it happends because I am "playing the movie" in my head about 5 seconds before it happends. In other words, I'm going nutts here thanks to my lucid dreams that started around age 5 when I found a way to control my dreams to avoid nightmares. Has anyone been affected in the same way by there lucid dreams?
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I don't mean to insult you, but I'm having a little trouble with believing this whole thing, also.
How do you know you're remembering every single dream when the opposite of remembering them is forgetting you ever had them, in the first place? You said your dreams started tricking you into making you believe they are real life because you have full control over them. If they are tricking you into believing they are real, that means your trouble is coming from losing your ability to lucid dream because lucid dreaming simply means "knowing you're dreaming."
Maybe it's just a misunderstanding, I don't know.
But if you're having a hard time believing that your dreams aren't just dreams, you're not having a problem with lucid dreaming. It sounds like you're having with realistic non-lucid dreams, in which you have full control of your actions (which are much more common than lucid dreams - with me, specifically) and you are having trouble telling them apart from waking-world reality, in which you also have full control of your actions.
If this were all lucid dreams, that were giving you trouble, you'd have no problem because you know "through every dream, during every night" that nothing is real because you are only dreaming. Let me know if I'm getting the wrong idea.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I don't mean to insult you, but I'm having a little trouble with believing this whole thing, also.
How do you know you're remembering every single dream when the opposite of remembering them is forgetting you ever had them, in the first place? You said your dreams started tricking you into making you believe they are real life because you have full control over them. If they are tricking you into believing they are real, that means your trouble is coming from losing your ability to lucid dream because lucid dreaming simply means "knowing you're dreaming."
Maybe it's just a misunderstanding, I don't know.
But if you're having a hard time believing that your dreams aren't just dreams, you're not having a problem with lucid dreaming. It sounds like you're having with realistic non-lucid dreams, in which you have full control of your actions (which are much more common than lucid dreams - with me, specifically) and you are having trouble telling them apart from waking-world reality, in which you also have full control of your actions.
If this were all lucid dreams, that were giving you trouble, you'd have no problem because you know "through every dream, during every night" that nothing is real because you are only dreaming. Let me know if I'm getting the wrong idea.
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I'm sorry I'm coming off as not believable and if this is the case that I'm not making sense then that implys to me that no one has shared these same problems as i and that maybe this is not the best place to get answers. When I say I remember my dreams it means that when I awake I can account for what I dreamed that night. It doesn't mean that a week later I still remember them all. some dreams I do remember forever it seems and others I forget after about 30 minutes of waking up. Im my dreams I can control my actions as well as actions of the dreams so if that's not lucid dreaming then maybe I'm calling it the wrong thing. In my dreams I know they are dreams but not until something odd happends that doesn't happen in real life. So in other words my dream may be normal for a while and I do not know I'm dreaming at that time. When something unnormal happends, it triggers me to knowing that it's a dream and from then on during the rest of the dream, I know I'm dreaming and I "have fun" with it. What happends during the day is I'll ask a friend how her divorce is going (this is just a for instance) and she'll say "what divorce?" Then I reply "I'm sorry I must have dreamed you were getting divorced" then I start feeling really bad and like I'm going nutts because my friend getting a divorce was so real to me in the dream that I thought it really did take place. Sure I could solve this problem if when I awoke I wrote down everything I dreamed about so I would remember what was fiction but that would be a hassel in itself. I just want to learn to dream like normal people "I think." Granted being able to control your dreams is ALOT of fun but this daytime fog I'm in is only getting worse. Oh and I'm not sure if the dejavu is a result of the dreams or not but I wish they would go away completely!

I, for one, have no problem believing what you are saying. It makes complete sense with what you said about when you were a child. I would tend to think that something like this would be very hard to unlearn.

I am actually not into hypnotism at all. I don't know whether or not hypnotism is even real, but the only remedy I can think of to a situation such as this would be to seek some kind of hypnotherapist to "program" your mind not to have any more lucid dreams. I personally would be very wary about having myself hypnotized, and I probably wouldn't seek out this remedy if I was in this situation. Just an idea.

Originally Posted by Jrels

I, for one, have no problem believing what you are saying. It makes complete sense with what you said about when you were a child. I would tend to think that something like this would be very hard to unlearn.

I am actually not into hypnotism at all. I don't know whether or not hypnotism is even real, but the only remedy I can think of to a situation such as this would be to seek some kind of hypnotherapist to "program" your mind not to have any more lucid dreams. I personally would be very wary about having myself hypnotized, and I probably wouldn't seek out this remedy if I was in this situation. Just an idea.
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thanks you thank you thank you! I have thought of this approach and I think it could be very beneficial but yes scary too. I'll see what I can find in the phone book and may just do it!

Originally Posted by Jrels

try drinkinga glass of wine before you sleep.alcohol pften keeps me from dreaming,or at least keeps me from remembering.this could save you alot of time and money.try this before you go to a docter.
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really? I've never heard of that but it would be cheaper lol.

Originally Posted by melindak

I'm sorry I'm coming off as not believable and if this is the case that I'm not making sense then that implys to me that no one has shared these same problems as i and that maybe this is not the best place to get answers.
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Most likely you will not get a sastisfactory awnser from a non-doctor person. and i personally have no clue how the mind works in conjunction with lucid dreams. most likely your sleep doctor will be able to give you the awnser you are seeking.


Good luck,
Volcon :yumdumdoodledum:

Originally Posted by melindak

I'm sorry I'm coming off as not believable and if this is the case that I'm not making sense then that implys to me that no one has shared these same problems as i and that maybe this is not the best place to get answers. When I say I remember my dreams it means that when I awake I can account for what I dreamed that night. It doesn't mean that a week later I still remember them all. some dreams I do remember forever it seems and others I forget after about 30 minutes of waking up. Im my dreams I can control my actions as well as actions of the dreams so if that's not lucid dreaming then maybe I'm calling it the wrong thing. In my dreams I know they are dreams but not until something odd happends that doesn't happen in real life. So in other words my dream may be normal for a while and I do not know I'm dreaming at that time. When something unnormal happends, it triggers me to knowing that it's a dream and from then on during the rest of the dream, I know I'm dreaming and I "have fun" with it. What happends during the day is I'll ask a friend how her divorce is going (this is just a for instance) and she'll say "what divorce?" Then I reply "I'm sorry I must have dreamed you were getting divorced" then I start feeling really bad and like I'm going nutts because my friend getting a divorce was so real to me in the dream that I thought it really did take place. Sure I could solve this problem if when I awoke I wrote down everything I dreamed about so I would remember what was fiction but that would be a hassel in itself. I just want to learn to dream like normal people "I think." Granted being able to control your dreams is ALOT of fun but this daytime fog I'm in is only getting worse. Oh and I'm not sure if the dejavu is a result of the dreams or not but I wish they would go away completely!

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you did misunderstand me...what I said was trying to "trick" me. I still know that I am dreaming but the characters try to convince me otherwise and fail to do so. I guess where I'm sort of loosing my lucidity is when the dreams are in real time and real life things happend. I'm ok with loosing the lucidity BUT I still remember the dreams in the back of my head and days or weeks later I forget whether it was a dream or real. Seriously yall, I'm not making this up and if sounds to hard to believe then please stop trying to "prove" that I am wrong. I'm only here for advice. I'm not here to say "I'm right and you are wrong" so with that being said, if I am in the wrong place please just say so. I am however grateful for the advice that was given. I'm not someone who is toying with yall because I have nothing better to do. Like I said before, I have an appointment with a sleep specialist on Monday but I just wanted some insight on the problem I have and whether anyone else had the same types of problems with their dreams.
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Ok, sorry bout the misunderstanding. (I wasn't trying to prove you wrong, only understand what you were trying to say.) The problem was that you said "lucid dreams" when you were talking about "controlled dreams." They are very different, but many people make the mistake of confusing them. No harm done.
Just to clarify, a lucid dream is simply a dream in which you know you are dreaming. Nothing more. So, in your case, your lucidity was helping you, becuase it was those times that you were lucid, that you weren't having trouble with confusing them with reality. And yes, most times, when many of us talk to our DC's, they try to convince us that the dream, even when you know it is a dream, is reality. This is very common.
Keeping a journal is probably the best thing for you to do (I'm sure this was probably covered. I haven't had a chance to go through all of the replies, yet). I haven't had too many problems with mixing real and dream memories, while awake, but I think it's mostly because my dreams are usually so out there. But, still, I have enough "normal" dreams that I think I can credit most of my recognition of memories, from times I knew were only dreams, to keeping a journal and being aware of each of the dreams I had the night before writing my journal entry. Give it a try, if you haven't already.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I don't mean to insult you, but I'm having a little trouble with believing this whole thing, also.
How do you know you're remembering every single dream when the opposite of remembering them is forgetting you ever had them, in the first place? You said your dreams started tricking you into making you believe they are real life because you have full control over them. If they are tricking you into believing they are real, that means your trouble is coming from losing your ability to lucid dream because lucid dreaming simply means "knowing you're dreaming."
Maybe it's just a misunderstanding, I don't know.
But if you're having a hard time believing that your dreams aren't just dreams, you're not having a problem with lucid dreaming. It sounds like you're having with realistic non-lucid dreams, in which you have full control of your actions (which are much more common than lucid dreams - with me, specifically) and you are having trouble telling them apart from waking-world reality, in which you also have full control of your actions.
If this were all lucid dreams, that were giving you trouble, you'd have no problem because you know "through every dream, during every night" that nothing is real because you are only dreaming. Let me know if I'm getting the wrong idea.
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you did misunderstand me...what I said was trying to "trick" me. I still know that I am dreaming but the characters try to convince me otherwise and fail to do so. I guess where I'm sort of loosing my lucidity is when the dreams are in real time and real life things happend. I'm ok with loosing the lucidity BUT I still remember the dreams in the back of my head and days or weeks later I forget whether it was a dream or real. Seriously yall, I'm not making this up and if sounds to hard to believe then please stop trying to "prove" that I am wrong. I'm only here for advice. I'm not here to say "I'm right and you are wrong" so with that being said, if I am in the wrong place please just say so. I am however grateful for the advice that was given. I'm not someone who is toying with yall because I have nothing better to do. Like I said before, I have an appointment with a sleep specialist on Monday but I just wanted some insight on the problem I have and whether anyone else had the same types of problems with their dreams.