Hi All

I've done a few WILD's (with MILDs) but I have the problem with it that I'd like to sort out. I'd appreciate any suggestions - no matter how silly.

By definition, when you WILD, your body is already rested. Thus you aren't really tired any more. In my case my body keeps wanting to wake. So when I try to MILD and go back to sleep, I find that my dreams are too 'thin'.

By thin I mean too insubstantial. I'm not asleep enough, and am still too conscious of the environment in the waking world.
What then happens is my lucid is more of a deep meditation state than a dream. Not nearly as good as some accidental lucids I've had before.

I know one is meant to spin or focus hands to increase lucidity. This only seems to work if it wasn't a WILD-induced lucid. Perhaps because spinning is meant to clear your mind and thus bring you closer to waking?
Thus works well if you are falling too deep... but not to take you deeper.

Any idea how to sort this out?