Normally, when we talk about Lucid dreams, we're talking about lucidity during stage 5
REM. I know that Tibetan Dream yogis claim to be able to maintain lucidity through their
entire sleep cycle - which I guess answers part of my question ...

Does anyone know with reasonable scientific certainty - that we can be consciously aware
in Stage 1 and/or stage 2 sleep?

I have found little on this subject. My personal experience is as follows. If I have a deep
meditation session using CD's w/ binaural beats in the delta or theta range - I know I get
into a very deep trance like state. I get tons of hypnagogic images and flashes. I'm also
very aware.

The peculiar observation is that I sometimes start snoring!. This is certainly consisitent with
my early sleep stages (ask my wife). So basically, I just hear myself snoring away.

I had a e-mail conversation w/ one of Laberge's colleagues over at the lucidity institute once and
he stopped short of confirming this theory - maybe he didn't want to say something wrong?


The other interesting effect I sometimes get in this state is hard to describe. Essentially, I get light
specs which collect above and between my eyes. When they collect into a bright red ball they "fire"
toward me and disappear. This repeats in a time periodic fashion - about once every 6 seconds or so.
After 5-8 balls of light fired toward me, it usually disappears.

The only thing I ever found which seemed to describe this phenomenon is the notion of the pinneal and
pituitary glands sympothetically charging up and down (electrochemically) during certain mental states.

I see this during deep meditation on occasion. I also see this before falling asleep in the middle of the
night from time to time.

Does anyone have scientifically reasonable thoughts on either of these topics?