Thread: Instant Lucid dreaming?

If you learn wild good enough, I have a friend who can do exactly this.

Yup. I've been polyphasic for a while (sleeping only in naps, and not more than 23 minutes at a time)
Once you're used to it, virtually all my dreams are lucid and easy to WILD into.

If you want to practice WILDing, try napping in the day for about 25 minutes.

Originally Posted by Placebo

Yup. I've been polyphasic for a while (sleeping only in naps, and not more than 23 minutes at a time)
Once you're used to it, virtually all my dreams are lucid and easy to WILD into.
If you want to practice WILDing, try napping in the day for about 25 minutes.

Now that's what I call dedication. I had to look up polyphasic to see what it meant, but that's awesome.

What's interesting is the 23 minutes. I've had dreams occur within 40 minutes after going to bed at night, and as often as 5 or 10 minutes apart after sleeping for several hours, but you seem to be able to produce them anytime you go to sleep within a 23 minute time period. That's incredible.

Do you know if it is because you are not sleeping very many hours that the dreams come so fast, or are you using some other secret formula like hypnosis or binaural beats for entering that state?

Thats a good idea I ought to try napping at around noon to do wild, but I'm confused should I try after the nap or before.



I just noticed my post count and placebos are reverses of eachother, well not anymore

Thanks. I meant to say that 'I've done it in the past' ... I got sick recently, so I had to stop again. I'm giving myself a few weeks to strengthen my immune system before going polyphasic again.

IMO, the reason I get a lot of LDs like that is because polyphasic sleep averages to the same proportions of the different stages of sleep as monophasic sleep. Just not in one nap.
So you might have one nap where you're out like a light, and other naps when you dream almost all the way through it.

So, because you didn't go through 60 minutes of delta sleep, it's easy to be lucid in a short nap consisting of mainly dreams. You weren't knocked into unconsciousness. Basically
WILDing is just easier like that.

LucidDreamGod: WILD into the nap. i.e. have a nap without losing consciousness.

i cant remember when i couldn't lucid dream TBH. from a young age i could imagine complex things in my head and monipulate them. i can now lucid dream while consios and controlled. although it isn't quite the same as its more controlling possible outcomes of situations in my head. and all this at the tender age of 15

Originally Posted by Placebo

I got sick recently, so I had to stop again. I'm giving myself a few weeks to strengthen my immune system before going polyphasic again.

If you haven't tried ginger root for strenthening your immune system, you might want to look into it.

As long as I have ginger root every day, I never get sick, no colds, nothing.

You can put it in just about anything, and for me it works much better than using garlic ever did, plus there is no smell.

I buy it at the grocery store and put a chunk of it in some orange juice I mix up in the morning with an orange, some frozen strawberries, and some sweet and low.

I've also learned to make a candy out of it that I snack on, by cutting up a bunch of it and mixing it with corn syrup in a powerful blender that I have and then letting it simmer on a stove for several hours until the corn syrup crystallizes and turns chewy. This is a little tricky though because if you heat it too long it turns hard as a rock, and then you have to add more corn syrup and heat it again to get it softer. The main problem with this is that it's a little fattening because of all of the corn syrup, but it sure tastes good.

You're an asset to the lucid dreaming community Placebo, so I wish you the best of health.

Thanks for the tips and the flattery () - my wife sometimes spikes my rooibos tea+lemon+honey+whisky with some crushed ginger powder. But I've been avoiding it due to the taste

Is powdered ginger gonna give me the same kick, do you think?

Originally Posted by Placebo

Thanks for the tips and the flattery () - my wife sometimes spikes my rooibos tea+lemon+honey+whisky with some crushed ginger powder. But I've been avoiding it due to the taste

Is powdered ginger gonna give me the same kick, do you think?

Yes, it may be a little less powerful than fresh ginger, but should still work. Just make sure you add some kind of sweetener so you can get it down.

Ginger has a sort of a burning flavor and is very strong, which is probably why it is so effective at building up the immune system, as it probably just destroys any kind of germs that get in its way.

The only side effect I've ever experienced from ginger was a while back when I was putting some really large pieces in my juices, I developed sort of rash on the top of some of my fingers. It took me forever to figure out what was causing it, but I finally traced it to the ginger. I guess it was producing so much heat in my body that it was causing a heat rash on my fingers. Powerful stuff, that ginger.

Hmm, I might get some glazed ginger as well then. It's a good excuse for a sugar treat

Originally Posted by Placebo

Hmm, I might get some glazed ginger as well then. It's a good excuse for a sugar treat

What got me started on the ginger root was that I bought some crystallized ginger root at the health food store which is probably the same thing as glazed ginger, because it is loaded with sugar. You need to have something in it to be able to get it down.

I liked it so well that I bought more, and then I noticed that as long as I was snacking on the crystalized ginger I never got sick. And if I would start to get sick I could start eating the ginger root candy and knock it out in no time.

But then my health store closed, so I began experimenting with making my own ginger candy using ginger root and corn syrup.

After having my wife chip a tooth off from a batch I made that was too hard, and myself knocking off a couple of caps on my teeth that I had to have glued back on from batches that were too chewey, I have finally almost got it perfected.

So yes, you may be better off just buying some of the crystalized ginger root at the store, although putting a chunk of ginger root in a fruit drink or even a protein drink also works really well, and can be done using much less sugar than you will find in the crystallized ginger root since the fruit will provide a lot of the sugar needed to drown out the strong ginger root flavor.

Here's to Placebo's health.

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

If you learn wild good enough, I have a friend who can do exactly this.

Lol you and your friend

Hey Placebo, how do you ever manage to schedule polyphasic at 23 minutes at a time? You got a sugardaddy paying your bills, or what?

My Dad always called Elvis "The Pelvis", that just makes me laugh.
Great nickname.

I am currently experimenting with polyphasic sleep. I'm thinking of adapting to an Everyman sleep schedule, that is, one 3 hour or so "core" sleep, and then 2 or 3 20-30 minute naps scattered throughout the day. Placebo, which did you do first, adapt to polyphasic, or learn to WILD with some consistency? Also, how long does it take for you to WILD into a polyphasic dream, and how long did it take when you were first starting WILDing on polyphasic sleep?

Thanks in advance,
Numegil

Yup, I think glazed ginger is about the same thing as your crystalized one. Although it's not hard enough to break a tooth on! lol
I'll get my hands on some this weekend.

Originally Posted by folded

Hey Placebo, how do you ever manage to schedule polyphasic at 23 minutes at a time? You got a sugardaddy paying your bills, or what?

I wish. I just time it right, and be as quiet about it as possible.

I would nap at 6am at home. At work at 10am, in the car. Nobody seems to notice me gone for just 20-ish minutes, normally. Then at lunchtime (between 1-2pm). Then I get home after work and take my 6pm nap.
The rest is just napping at home.

Hey this thread seems like just the perfect place for my topic,

ok, so school is like really boring so I nap at school in just about every class, and withing like two minutes I enter into a LD buts its wierd, its kind of a half in half out sort of dream though, I have dreams that are so vivid and last for such a long time that when I wake up I don't know where I am because it seems absurd that I had that long of a dream in the span of an hour and a half class period

also the dream state isnt complete so even though I am lucid in the dream, I dont have complete control of the environment like I do when Im sleeping in my bed

anyway, does anything like this happen to anyone else?

you shouldnt be sleeping in lesons.. tut tut. On the otherhand, the fact that you can sleep for 1 hour 30 minutes in a lesson makes me hope you do it with skill..

Originally Posted by gavin

you shouldnt be sleeping in lesons.. tut tut. On the otherhand, the fact that you can sleep for 1 hour 30 minutes in a lesson makes me hope you do it with skill..

Haha, ya, I have a way of locking my muscles in an upright position without losing comfort, I have been practising for years, only one teacher has ever been able to realize that im actually asleep

Originally Posted by Acertine

Haha, ya, I have a way of locking my muscles in an upright position without losing comfort, I have been practising for years, only one teacher has ever been able to realize that im actually asleep

Don't the rest of your teachers realize that your eyes are closed?

Originally Posted by Placebo

Yup, I think glazed ginger is about the same thing as your crystalized one. Although it's not hard enough to break a tooth on! lol
I'll get my hands on some this weekend.

Here's a recipe I just found on the internet for making your own crystallized or glazed ginger root that really comes out good. You will want to scroll down to the candied ginger section, but this should be a lot cheaper than the crystallized or glazed ginger root you would buy in a health food store, plus much fresher, and with less sugar.

http://www.foodsubs.com/Candied.html

The only thing I would change in the recipe is to let it simmer for more like 2 hours than just 20 minutes so that the ginger root is more tender, and to possibly use more than one cup of sliced ginger root. I think I used more like 1 1/2 cups because I just filled it up until it was full. I just made a batch and it tastes good without even sprinkling the extra sugar on it. It's really good right out of the pot, but make sure you don't burn your tongue like I just did.

I wish I would have found a recipe like this earlier before I started experimenting with making it with corn syrup, but the last time I searched for recipes all I came up with was recipes that took 2 or 3 days to make.

This is how things usually work for me. If I try to be helpful to someone else, I end up helping myself. Thanks Placebo.

Cool, I'll definitely try that. I choked a bit on the price of glazed ginger. Probably the wrong choice of shop, but I'll try this recipe first.
And pleasure

Well, this ginger root thing just keeps getting better. A friend of mine at work mentioned to me the other day that he had bought some ginger ale at the store last week...click....

Ginger Ale? I hadn't even considered Ginger Ale, but had been wanting some kind of homeade soft drink I could make.

So I began googling for homemade recipes for Ginger Ale, and here is a really good one that I came up with:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci...9936_7,00.html

With this recipe a person heats up the ginger, sugar, and water, then strains the ginger syrup to make ginger ale from. They then take the ginger pieces and coat them with sugar to make ginger candy. Easy to do, and you end up with two great ginger products instead of just one.

The main change I would made in this recipe is that I used 3 cups of sliced ginger instead of 2, and I let the ginger simmer for 3 hours in the sugar/water mixture in a large pot. I then just coated the ginger slices with sugar and let them sit out instead of baking them for 3 hours.

Not only did the ginger candy come out great but the homeade Ginger Ale is delicious, although you will need to buy a bottle of soda a water to mix with the ginger syrup.

And what does all of this have to do with Instant Lucid Dreaming. Not much, other than if you want to maintain an unusual sleep schedule like Placebo does to encourange lucid dreaming, you need to keep your immune system strong, and ginger is the best way that I know to keep the immune system strong and healthy.

Cool!

BTW, I've been pumping myself with stuff, including ginger.
And I've definitely made a good come-back, despite a sudden cold snap.
It's either the ginger or the olive leaf extract .. or both.
Thanks for the recipes

PS: Damn it was difficult to find ginger around here. Wierd.